Cardinal Dolan: Obama's 'Gay Marriage' Support Undermines Society (illegal, crimes, compared)

[desertdetroiter]

Originally Posted by Wapasha

Nice comparison, 0bama's opinions are about as worthy of notice as Mickey's.

Right. Which is why it's all over the news and a billion threads are getting made about it.

Again, what is Mickey Mouse's opinion on Gay marriage because it has about as much validity as the opinion coming from a celibate Cardinal.

[MUTGR]

Originally Posted by majoun

So where are Tim Dolan's admissions that sexual abuse of young people (usually young males) by priests and the protection of said priests by church hierarchy not only greatly undermines the Catholic Church but undermines society - as many of the victims of molestation by priests can never trust authority of any kind again?

No question the Catholic Church let too many homosexual males become priests and they molested boys. It was a huge mistake.

[desertdetroiter]

Originally Posted by MUTGR

No question the Catholic Church let too many homosexual males become priests and they molested boys. It was a huge mistake.

No, the Catholic church came into existence, and THAT was a huge mistake.

[majoun]

Originally Posted by MUTGR

No question the Catholic Church let too many homosexual males become priests and they molested boys. It was a huge mistake.

Said "homosexual males" who denounced homosexuality and advocated antigay policies. The most antigay people are often closet cases.

Pedophiles are not homosexual. The crime has to do with holding power over kids rather than being attracted to physically mature people of the same sex. That's why you'll see heterosexual men molesting boys. Pedos are drawn to the Catholic priesthood (and the Protestant ministry, and Jewish rabbinate, and the Islamic clergy, etc. ) because they deliberately want jobs in which they'll be in contact with kids and hold power over kids. Same reason why they become teachers or scoutmasters.

[MUTGR]

Originally Posted by desertdetroiter

No, the Catholic church came into existence, and THAT was a huge mistake.

If you follow that logic, public schools coming into existence was a huge mistake because they are having the same problem, especially with lesbians molesting girls. Of course, it's not as newsworthy as when it involves a priest.

The problem is more with homosexuals. Maybe that was a huge mistake.

[MUTGR]

Originally Posted by majoun

Pedophiles are not homosexual.

Oh, ok. If you say so.

[desertdetroiter]

Originally Posted by MUTGR

If you follow that logic, public schools coming into existence was a huge mistake because they are having the same problem, especially with lesbians molesting girls. Of course, it's not as newsworthy as when it involves a priest.

The problem is more with homosexuals. Maybe that was a huge mistake.

It's not as newsworthy because society holds priests to a higher standard than they hold your garden variety lesbian.

Of course the question then becomes:WHY? Because i sure as hell don't know. High standards and the Catholic Church aren't exactly potentially inclusive.

[Memphis1979]

That's why all of the states that have legalized it have fallen into anarchy I guess.........

(sarcasm alert)

[majoun]

Originally Posted by MUTGR

Oh, ok. If you say so.

Most pedophiles who molest boys self-identify as heterosexual.

[AeroGuyDC]

Originally Posted by majoun

So where are Tim Dolan's admissions that sexual abuse of young people (usually young males) by priests and the protection of said priests by church hierarchy not only greatly undermines the Catholic Church but undermines society - as many of the victims of molestation by priests can never trust authority of any kind again?

I'm sure if you do a Google search you'll find all kinds of apologies from the Catholic Church. I'm not a Catholic, nor am I a Catholic defender, but I do believe your argument here is pretty unfounded. I'm pretty sure they've acknowledged the wrong.