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Old 05-11-2012, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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NONE should be allowed considering public schools are not supposed to be condoning a particular religion.
I accepted that part of progressive reasoning long ago, like back when they just had to have prayer removed. The part of this one that I can't understand is that the judge said that 60% of those Commandments should be allowed in school, at all. It seems he must be weakening in the progressive thinking since only when the word God is mentioned it is illegal.

I sure didn't know that anybody was allowed to post any of those Commandments in a public school anymore. However, I would like to see your thinking about Ted Koppel's words at the commencement in 1987. Go ahead and read them on the link and let me know what you think about them.
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:43 AM
 
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Jesus is more of a central figure in Islam than he is in Judaism (with which most Christians seem to feel more comfortable with). Jesus and Mohammed, are both prophets (as is Moses), except that Mohammed being the last.

But, you took the least significant of the argument presented and have started running with it. Digest it, religious zealots be it Islamic, or Christian, have a common desire: push their religious agenda on EVERYBODY and influence public policies to their whim. This is yet another example of the same.
Is there a chance that with Judaism being based on the Old Testament which was written before Christ was born that maybe he wouldn't show up much in that Book of the Holy Bible? Maybe that is the reason that they don't talk about Him a great lot.
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:45 AM
 
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The "Ten commandments" are the basis of the greatest protection scam of all time. It claims you all have an immortal soul that will suffer in Hell after you die if you do not give us respect and money. First part, soul, is an assumption and unsupported claim, and the latter the shakedown. Too bad billions have fallen for these shysters over the centuries but they have.

Keep ALL religious icons out of schools. Teach kids realities not myths. If you must post something let it be “do unto others as you would do unto yourself”.
By golly, Greg it seems to me that you have just posted the best you could in trying to push your socialistic program. Are you sure that the Catholic Church made up that whole thing just to keep the money coming in? Is it not possible that you are just throwing atheistic Pelosi as much as I am the other Pelosi?
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:48 AM
 
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Why 10 commandments?

George Carlin - Top 20 Moments (Part 1 of 4) - YouTube
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Yeah, he thinks that all of those commandments that have the words God of Heaven in them should go somewhere. I bet he doesn't have many Christian moments in his life.

Those commandments are still what they were in the beginning and that would be how to live our lives to keep us away from burying ourselves with the others we kill and mistreat.

Here I have included a really good part of a commencement speech by Ted Koppel in 1987. Not one atheist will like those words but any Christian should see what they are and why he delivered that speech.

Judge Suggests that Only Six of Ten Commandments be Posted in School - Godfather Politics

None of the 10 commandments should be displayed in public buildings.

Feel free to post them on church property, though. Just as the constitution specifies. You're still in favor of the constitution, aren't you?
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:51 AM
 
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Here's my word(s) about the message, which has already been made quite clear by myself and other posters on this thread and the hundreds like it...

Religion and does not belong in public schools...period. Please point out where anyone...ever...has caused controversey by insisting that what is taught in parochial schools in unconstitutional. Private religious institutions can do what they want, but not institutions fuinded by the taxpayer. A very simple rule of thumb that zealots, revisionists and Bible thumpers have a really difficult time comprehending.
Are you saying in the bolded part, my bolding, that you aren't just a bit of an atheistic zealot? I don't often use a string of words like yours and surely you can understand that the revisionists in this discussion are you and your buds.
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:51 AM
 
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I like that part where "Religions never have any problem with murders. More people have been killed in the name of the God."

George Carlin is funny and sharp.
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Is there a chance that with Judaism being based on the Old Testament which was written before Christ was born that maybe he wouldn't show up much in that Book of the Holy Bible? Maybe that is the reason that they don't talk about Him a great lot.
The Old Testament mentions the coming messiah some 300 times. Likewise, Jesus talked about the Old Testament all the time. The OT and NT go hand in hand.
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:55 AM
 
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What generation did Thomas Jefferson and James Madison come from?
I guess you haven't seen the post that pointed out that Jefferson had pointed out his favorite biblical passages which so many atheists like to use as what he believed, completely. I didn't see you disagreeing with that post so take it that you failed to see that one.

You are saying that Jefferson was just trying to use high sounding words in the Declaration of Independence, I suppose. I wonder how many times either of those men rolls over when you atheistic sounding people make some of those claims about them. Of course, you haven't read this whole thread or you could have attacked some other Christian messengers.
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:57 AM
 
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Jesus gave Christians only one commandment: Love God, love your neighbor and love even your enemy. The 10 commandments were for Jews.
Well, hell, Christians should accept something other than the history of the Hebrew people which is what I consider the Old Testament to be so surely those words can be a part of what they believe.

When did you start trying to be an atheist, anyway?
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