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By the way, let the attacks on me begin. I don't care, nor am I going to bother to respond.
The supporters of the ever-increasing, insane schedule of shots always resort to ad hominem, not only of we laypersons that aren't brainwashed or led by anything but our own inuition and wisdom. They also lamely and in sophmoric fashion have to call Professional after professional "nuts" and other things because...
drumroll apropos...
at those numerous times they cannot "gainsay the messages" before them.
You got it, let the attacks begin because they fail to objectively see themselves and that it's all they've got when they can't force their agenda on others.
"Others" of which we number in the many millions and ever-growing. Their agenda is threatened and they know it. We're having the healthy and beautiful babies. WE KNOW that every time there's a breakout of one of their diseases that a good number, if not a shocking number of the "victims" of said illness are immunized.
Stand your ground, and God bless you for it.
It's call "Freedom." They are not more pro-choice than we are, in fact they are often less PRO CHOICE. They give us the right to kill our babies in the womb, but not the right to refuse those same babies shots....if they can help it.
The supporters of the ever-increasing, insane schedule of shots always resort to ad hominem, not only of we laypersons that aren't brainwashed or led by anything but our own inuition and wisdom. They also lamely and in sophmoric fashion have to call Professional after professional "nuts" and other things because...
drumroll apropos...
at those numerous times they cannot "gainsay the messages" before them.
You got it, let the attacks begin because they fail to objectively see themselves and that it's all they've got when they can't force their agenda on others.
We're not the ones arguing in favor of contagious diseases. You anti-vaxxers are. Please stop telling us we need vaccine preventable diseases because science is too difficult for you to understand.
Thank you.
"Others" of which we number in the many millions and ever-growing. Their agenda is threatened and they know it. We're having the healthy and beautiful babies. WE KNOW that every time there's a breakout of one of their dieseas that a good number, if not a shocking number of the "victims" of said illness are immunized.
Stand your ground, and God bless you for it.
It's call "Freedom." They are not more pro-choice than we are, in fact they are often less PRO CHOICE. They give us the righ to kill our babies in the womb, but not the right to refuse shots....if they can help it.
You can refuse shots all you like. But you can't refuse them and expect people to leave you alone to spread vaccine preventable diseases. FYI, most vaccine preventable diseases occur in vaccinated people because most people are vaccinated.
That still doesn't refute the fact that most unvaccinated are far more vulnerable to serious vaccine preventable diseases than their unvaccinated counterparts.
Exposure to thimerosal-containing vaccines in infancy or in the womb is not associated with an increased risk for developing autism, according to a new study from the CDC.
Children in the study who developed autism spectrum disorder (ASD) actually had less exposure to vaccines with the mercury-containing preservative than children who developed normally.
The study is the latest of almost 20 studies to find no link between childhood vaccinations and autism.
How can you be so cavalier about exposing our most vulnerable citizens to dangerous and often deadly vaccine preventable diseases?
Nowhere did I claim Wakefield was "independent". Vaccines have problems associated with them. This is undeniable. Immunity is far more complex than a vaccine.
In fact, I pointed out many conflicts of interest going on with the studies many people readily accept.
How bout that Denmark study?
(NaturalNews) CDC researcher Poul Thorsen, who famously headed up the "Denmark Study" that many claim disproved any link between autism and vaccines, has been indicted in Atlanta by a federal grand jury on charges of wire fraud, money laundering and defrauding research institutions of grant money
Learn more: CDC vaccine scientist who downplayed links to autism indicted by DOJ in alleged fraud scheme
Since when do anecdotes merit scientific consideration?
A complete red herring. Vaccination "reactions" apparently do not include autism, as the research shows.
Anecdotes always merit scientific consideration based on what they are.
Reactions go to the point about the broad labeling of "Autism" and its wide-range of symptoms. Unlike you, who seem to imply that data is all in, I think more independent and proper research needs to be done.
Too many people are giving validity to information, which does, in fact have conflicts of interest, while they hypocritically complain about it elsewhere.
I think Vaccinations should be by choice, not forced. I also think good information, unbiased needs to be out there.
Nowhere did I claim Wakefield was "independent". Vaccines have problems associated with them. This is undeniable. Immunity is far more complex than a vaccine.
I cannot recall a more pointless string of vacuous platitudes in days.
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Originally Posted by CDusr
In fact, I pointed out many conflicts of interest going on with the studies many people readily accept.
Nowhere did I claim Wakefield was "independent". Vaccines have problems associated with them. This is undeniable. Immunity is far more complex than a vaccine.
In fact, I pointed out many conflicts of interest going on with the studies many people readily accept.
Actually vaccines are one of the safest medical procedures on the market. They date back several centuries and have literally driven many diseases into submission including smallpox, polio and diphtheria.
Immunity is not that complicated for certain diseases.
The perceived conflicts of interest really aren't. The Academy of American Pediatrics is far more independent than Mercola or Barbara Loe Fisher and her cohort of liars.
I cannot recall a more pointless string of vacuous platitudes in days.
The science does not ultimately care.
I am sure you can.
The science should care about conflict of interest, because the "science" is performed by humans. You may not care, but I assure you scientist and others do care.
To deny conflict of interest has no bearing on outcomes is absurd in the extreme.
CDC researcher Poul Thorsen, who famously headed up the "Denmark Study" that many claim disproved any link between autism and vaccines, has been indicted in Atlanta by a federal grand jury on charges of wire fraud, money laundering and defrauding research institutions of grant money.
Ignoring that it is a lie to say he "headed up the 'Denmark Study"... let's pretend those charges are true. How do they discredit the research?
Finally, it can't be reiterated enough that these fraud charges have nothing at all to do with the scientific validity of the Danish studies. Over the next week and during the trial, you can count on propagandists at AoA to try to use this case to try to convince people that the Danish studies are somehow hopelessly tainted, even though Thorsen actually didn't contribute much to them, and that, by association, all the evidence that supports the safety of vaccines can also now be brought into question.
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