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Old 05-16-2012, 06:32 AM
 
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Interesting article (second link). I had not realized that some private colleges, like the one in the article, mandated that its students have health insurance; was willing and able to sell said students health insurance; and, if the student did not have health coverage or did not desire it (number 3) nevertheless billed said student for health coverage, whether they wanted it or not.


"Due to these changes in regulation by the federal government, beginning with the 2012-13 school year, the University 1) will no longer require that all full-time undergraduate students carry health insurance, 2) will no longer offer a student health insurance plan, and 3) will no longer bill those not covered under a parent/guardian plan or personal plan for student health insurance,” the college said.
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Old 05-16-2012, 06:36 AM
 
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'Catholic' University ..... 'consistent teachings of the Catholic Church'.

Who are you kidding? They are part of the Roman Catholic church network.
Actually they arent.
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Oh, get over your self!

The typical hypocrisy here is your defense of the college hiding behind the church when it's convenient while being unwilling to admit there have certainly been times when the church's alleged dedication to "the sacredness of human life" was just that, an allegation.

This is no different than those who happily lie, cheat, and steal during the weak only to proudly speak of their 45 minutes in church on Sunday morning as if that somehow excuses their other activities.

IF the college is to be allowed to hide behind the teachings of the church then ALL the church'e teachings/actions are fair game.
So now you are accusing the university of all of the other actions as well? Source it, and when you are done, tell me what this has to do with the topic? Even if EVERYTHING you accused them of is true, which its not, then clearly you are now alledging that the nation as a whole has to subject themself to Obamacare, because of the actions of the church, or more precisely, the actions of a university in this instance.

Thats some giant leap there bucko..
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Old 05-16-2012, 06:43 AM
 
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh..................................

So despite their statement "“will not participate in a plan that requires us to violate the consistent teachings of the Catholic Church on the sacredness of human life.” , they're free to sweep those times when there was no sacredness of human life in the church's actions under the rug because they're a college.

How convenient.


Not a Roman Catholic, but I hardly hold responsible the Roman Catholics of today for those burned at the stake six hundred years ago. It's a huge organization, and generally when an organization gets that big, you'll find some corruption and some bad eggs (see government).

I applaud them for their actions today regardless of what happened yesterday.
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Old 05-16-2012, 06:47 AM
 
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A college is not a church.. Are you liberals really this ignorant to not know the difference, and what the hell does the other items have to do with the thread, or was it just your way of hijacking and distracting from the facts?
It's what they do. It's all they know. They learned well from their master, The Big Floppy Eared Nutjob CIC. Distract and attack.

The increased cost is going to be evident, even to blind liberals. Their employers are going to choose to pay the cheaper fine and the employees will be left on their own. Serves them right!
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Old 05-16-2012, 06:48 AM
 
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Actually they arent.

So now you are accusing the university of all of the other actions as well? Source it, and when you are done, tell me what this has to do with the topic? Even if EVERYTHING you accused them of is true, which its not, then clearly you are now alledging that the nation as a whole has to subject themself to Obamacare, because of the actions of the church, or more precisely, the actions of a university in this instance.

Thats some giant leap there bucko..
About the only accusation I can make from this exchange is your reading comprehension seems sub-par as I've said no such thing.

I haven't read the bill that is 'Obamacare' and have no idea if it's good, bad, or indifferent, the hyperbole on either side not withstanding.

But it's self-Righteous BS to allege a private college should be allowed to hide behind a church and avoid any law that would pertain to a private college. Besides, reuiring HC to cover birth control DOES NOT force anyone to use it so it's a moot point claiming it goes against the teachings of the church.

BTW: some giant leap?

I suggest you be careful when you take the big one down from your high horse, Bucko
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Old 05-16-2012, 06:49 AM
 
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Okay, so the college is not a church. So why are they referencing the 'consistent teachings of the Catholic Church'?

Got any more hairs to split?
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Old 05-16-2012, 06:51 AM
 
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Not a Roman Catholic, but I hardly hold responsible the Roman Catholics of today for those burned at the stake six hundred years ago. It's a huge organization, and generally when an organization gets that big, you'll find some corruption and some bad eggs (see government).

I applaud them for their actions today regardless of what happened yesterday.
The Archbishop of Dublin diasagrees with your love for today's actions but you'd actually have to open your mind to know that.
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Old 05-16-2012, 06:51 AM
 
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If you're going to whine about Catholics and not participate in the subject of the thread, which is the cost and unconstitutionality of OCare, maybe you'd be more comfortable posting in the religious forum.
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Old 05-16-2012, 06:51 AM
 
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It's what they do. It's all they know. They learned well from their master, The Big Floppy Eared Nutjob CIC. Distract and attack.

The increased cost is going to be evident, even to blind liberals. Their employers are going to choose to pay the cheaper fine and the employees will be left on their own. Serves them right!
As opposed to the 'infallible' former Hitler Youth who is currently head honcho in Rome?
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Old 05-16-2012, 06:51 AM
 
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Does it really matter WHAT religion we are talking about, FYI They are a CHRISTIAN College. It doesn't matter what SECT, they are still christian.

Next, It really DOESN'T matter what KIND of college it is, they are dropping health insurance for the students, because their costs will double under obamacare.

That means if the parents don't have a policy that can add the kids, then stand alone health insurance is going to cost a bundle.

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A university official told Fox News Radio the students’ basic $600 policy was going to double in cost in the fall and triple next year and that the school’s insurance provider said the increases were the result of the federal Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.
Doesn't sound so affordable to me?
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