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Old 05-16-2012, 05:38 PM
 
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The BGOV Barometer shows that since Democrat John F. Kennedy took office in January 1961, non-government payrolls in the U.S. swelled by almost 42 million jobs under Democrats, compared with 24 million for Republican presidents, according to Labor Department figures.

Democrats hold the edge though they occupied the Oval Office for 23 years since Kennedy’s inauguration, compared with 28 for the Republicans. Through April, Democratic presidents accounted for an average of 150,000 additional private-sector paychecks per month over that period, more than double the 71,000 average for Republicans
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Private Jobs Increase More With Democrats in White House - Bloomberg
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:51 PM
 
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Neither Democrats nor Republicans create jobs. If anyone wants to relate job creation with the election cycle, they should look at Congressional passage of business regulation and then the point that the particular regulation went into effect, along with which party was in control at the time. Also, tax-restructuring legislation.
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:56 PM
 
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The BGOV Barometer shows that since Democrat John F. Kennedy took office in January 1961, non-government payrolls in the U.S. swelled by almost 42 million jobs under Democrats, compared with 24 million for Republican presidents, according to Labor Department figures.

Democrats hold the edge though they occupied the Oval Office for 23 years since Kennedy’s inauguration, compared with 28 for the Republicans. Through April, Democratic presidents accounted for an average of 150,000 additional private-sector paychecks per month over that period, more than double the 71,000 average for Republicans
Private Jobs Increase More With Democrats in White House - Bloomberg
If this information is correct (and I doubt it is) then BO is turning the corner for dems and its all bad now.
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:58 PM
 
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Neither Democrats nor Republicans create jobs. If anyone wants to relate job creation with the election cycle, they should look at Congressional passage of business regulation and then the point that the particular regulation went into effect, along with which party was in control at the time. Also, tax-restructuring legislation.
You can't have it both ways. Either Democrats or Republicans do not create jobs or they don't. If they don't then is shouldn't matter what laws, policies, taxes or regulations they pass.

Either that or I am completely missing your point, which isn't impossible.
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Old 05-16-2012, 06:01 PM
 
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I'm not sure how ol' Bloomers would know this. Did he go around asking business owners if they are Rs or Ds? Unless someone chooses to go public with an endorsement or big donation, it's impossible to know.

I realize ol' Bloomers thinks he's the know-all, be-all of business. Whatever..
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Old 05-16-2012, 06:02 PM
 
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If this information is correct (and I doubt it is) then BO is turning the corner for dems and its all bad now.

Actually if you look at the graph below, the sluggishness of the public sector (austerity measures ) has been consistently dragging down job growth.




http://botc.tcf.org/2012/05/graph-of...recovery-.html
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Old 05-16-2012, 06:11 PM
 
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You have to look beyond the superficial label and look at policy. JFK was a staunch anti-commie who cut taxes on the rich. Nixon was an anti-free-market lefty who enacted wage and price controls, a policy that was even to the left of Obama. Bill Clinton was a fiscal conservative, at least post 1994, who signed welfare reform (eventually) and ran surpluses towards the end of his second term. W. Bush was a fiscal liberal who jacked up spending faster than any prez since LBJ.
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"Lower rates of taxation will stimulate economic activity and so raise the levels of personal and corporate income as to yield within a few years an increased – not a reduced – flow of revenues to the federal government
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Old 05-16-2012, 06:23 PM
 
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JFK has nothing in common with BHO. He cut taxes. Were he alive today,he'd be considered a conservative Republican.
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Old 05-16-2012, 06:33 PM
 
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You can't have it both ways. Either Democrats or Republicans do not create jobs or they don't. If they don't then is shouldn't matter what laws, policies, taxes or regulations they pass.

Either that or I am completely missing your point, which isn't impossible.
I am saying any sitting president is less responsible than the body of laws that go into effect, which doesn't necessarily line up with the election cycle.

I am not asking to have it "both ways". I have not blamed Obama for lack of jobs, if that is what you are implying. I think that he is less responsible for that than the simple business cycle is.

I am concerned about what his policies could do in time, however.
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Old 05-16-2012, 06:33 PM
 
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You can't have it both ways. Either Democrats or Republicans do not create jobs or they don't. If they don't then is shouldn't matter what laws, policies, taxes or regulations they pass.

Either that or I am completely missing your point, which isn't impossible.

Presidents are responsible for creating an ENVIRONMENT that fostes the private sector to grow and prosper when needed, they dont create jobs
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