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Old 05-20-2012, 02:31 PM
 
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The original doesn't exist, and has never been shown.
a physical state certified COLB and "long form" birth certificate have been submitted to the court in orly taitz's mississippi ballot challenge appeal.
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Old 05-20-2012, 02:36 PM
 
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a physical state certified COLB and "long form" birth certificate have been submitted to the court in orly taitz's mississippi ballot challenge appeal.
I wonder why the birthers havn't tried to challenge Hawaii's statehood. Even if they could - they would have to deal with it having been a U.S. territory prior to 1959 and a territorial NBC can still run for president.
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Old 05-20-2012, 02:40 PM
 
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Bottom left for origination date.
the bottom left date (11/01) is the revision date for the COLB format, not the individual document. it appears on other COLBs released from the same time.

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Old 05-20-2012, 02:42 PM
 
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I wonder why the birthers havn't tried to challenge Hawaii's statehood.
i have seen one ( can't remember if it was here ) do just that.
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:26 PM
 
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the bottom left date (11/01) is the revision date for the COLB format, not the individual document. it appears on other COLBs released from the same time.

http://www.redditmirror.cc/users/pub...ertificate.jpg
No original?
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:35 PM
 
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The night before this thread began, I was bored so I began searching for and reading old birther threads - hoping that another one would be started. The next day I logged in - and there was this one!

Who needs Leno when you can read birther threads!
That it has become a "birther thread" is a derailment. Birthers believe Obama was born in Kenya, and therefore not a citizen. The OP however accepts that Obama was born in Hawaii but years ago (possibly) claimed to have been born in Kenya.

The only birther of the original topic would be Obama.
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:04 PM
 
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I wonder why the birthers havn't tried to challenge Hawaii's statehood. Even if they could - they would have to deal with it having been a U.S. territory prior to 1959 and a territorial NBC can still run for president.
Don't be silly.

This is a serious and very important question to ask. Again, if the President is not a natural born US citizen, it is the GREATEST SCANDAL in US political history. This question NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED to put the matter at rest.

For both the left and the right, this question needs to be answered. I would think that Obama, if he is a naturalized US citizen, would be GLAD AND EAGER to put this matter to rest. It would make his political opponents look ridiculous. If, on the other hand, he is not a naturalized US citizen, it is the greatest political scandal in US history- both the left and right should want to know.

The truth will win. Let us discover the truth.
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:09 PM
 
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Don't be silly.

This is a serious and very important question to ask. Again, if the President is not a natural born US citizen, it is the GREATEST SCANDAL in US political history. This question NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED to put the matter at rest.
It already has.

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For both the left and the right, this question needs to be answered. I would think that Obama, if he is a naturalized US citizen, would be GLAD AND EAGER to put this matter to rest. It would make his political opponents look ridiculous. If, on the other hand, he is not a naturalized US citizen, it is the greatest political scandal in US history- both the left and right should want to know.
You are correct - see above.
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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will work on it after lunch.



links please.




sure, because my testimony amounts to the same as adams', "i heard somebody say....".

i doubt a court will accept either of our testimony.
We have his own affidavit, he takes the stand, then you take the stand as a rebuttal witness. By the way, what did you witness?
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:21 PM
 
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We have his own affidavit, he takes the stand, then you take the stand as a rebuttal witness. By the way, what did you witness?
It's too bad then everything in Adams' affidavit other than his name, former position and responsibilities are inadmissible hearsay.

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I would think that Obama, if he is a naturalized US citizen, would be GLAD AND EAGER to put this matter to rest. It would make his political opponents look ridiculous.
Don't worry, anybody who still believes in birtherism at this point already looks ridiculous.
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