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Old 05-21-2012, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Originally Posted by cleatis View Post
you don't raise homosexual kids or heterosexual kids, you just raise your kids and let them sort out what they do with their anatomy.

No one teaches their kid to be straight, and when you do "teach" them they grow up with names like Fred Phelps
I'm beginning to think that could be Fred Phelps....Sure sounds like him.

 
Old 05-21-2012, 01:31 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ambient View Post
That was a really long monologue, considering how baseless it was. What it comes down to is this: do whatever the hell you want, and just leave others to do what they want. If you want to marry a man or a woman, do it - but don't think you should dictate to ME what I can or cannot do in this regard. It's none of your damn business who I choose to love, so long as they are legal, consenting adults. Legal unions should be open to ALL consenting adults.
Except that everyone should have a say since marriage is subsidized by the "collective."

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You are married, and you are filing a joint return with your spouse. You are considered married if you are legally married on the last day of the year. In order to file jointly, both you and your spouse must agree to file a joint tax return, and both must sign the return. Married Filing Jointly (MFJ) provides more tax benefits than filing a separate return.
Choosing Your Filing Status
 
Old 05-21-2012, 01:34 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Except that everyone should have a say since marriage is subsidized by the "collective."

Choosing Your Filing Status
Why? Is somebody trying to take your subsidy away?
 
Old 05-21-2012, 02:02 AM
 
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Gov't should get out of the marriage business altogether. There should be no govt benefits as a result of marriage. And consenting adults should be able to marry other consenting adults no matter their orientation. Live and let live.
 
Old 05-21-2012, 05:53 AM
 
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Homosexuality is becoming not only accepted, but even encouraged at times. I understand that many with same-sex preferences have been through hell. Many have been sexually abused. Many have been struggled with their feelings & many have been treated badly for their aparent or actual sexual preferences.
I believe it's important to love everyone, no matter what their preferences. Loving someone means to want the best for them, even if it means telling them truth they don't want to hear.

Society's well being depends on the basic unit of society: family, which is based on marriage between a man and a woman.
Legal marriage is primarily for the benefit of society, especially the future of society: CHILDREN.
Children are created by a man and a woman.
Studies and common sense, show that children also thrive best by being raised by the 2 opposite sexes that created them (nature is wise).
Gay marriage denies the right for a child to have both a mother and father, & basically states, "Mothers aren't really important - 2 dads are ok, or Fathers aren't really important - 2 moms are ok." When this false!

"Children Need Both A Mother And A Father" Dr. A. Dean Byrd
Children Need Both A Mother And A Father

"Why Children need both Mother-Love and Father-Love" Glenn T. Stanton
http://www.jashow.org/Articles/_PDFArch ... I0804G.pdf

"Mothers' and Fathers' Socializing Behaviors in Three Contexts: Links with Children's Peer Competence"
Pettit, Gregory S.; Brown, Elizabeth Glyn; Mize, Jacquelyn; Lindsey, Eric
http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/se ... o=EJ563106

"Why Children Need a Mother and a Father" Bill Muehlenberg
Why Children Need a Mother and a Father » Bill Muehlenberg’s CultureWatch


Another consideration is the health consequences of homosexual sex...Because statistically, homosexuals (both men and women) change partners more often and are less monogomous than heterosexuals, STDs and AIDS statistically are known to spread quickly among homosexuals, especially gay men...
CDC - Sexually Transmitted Diseases - Gay and Bisexual Men's Health
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/...nal508comp.pdf
We also know that anal sex is risky (for anal fissures, bacterial infection, colon rupture & anal cancer), even in 2 healthy males.


Why would you want to legally place children with couples who engage in harmful behavior, when children learn most by imitation?
Homosexuality is not only harmful medically, but usually it is the product of psychological problems (except for rare instances ie hermaphrodites). We are born with brains that are only 25% developed, so that our brains can adapt to environmental influences & better survive.

"1. No research has found provable biological or genetic differences between heterosexuals & homosexuals that weren't caused by their behavior.
2. In 2 large studies conducted... Homosexuals overwhelmingly believed their feelings and behavior were the result of social or environmental influences.
3. Older homosexuals often approach the young
4. Early homosexual experiences influence adult patters of behavior
5. Sexual conduct is influenced by cultural factors - esp. religious convictions
6. Many change their sexual preferences
7. There are many ex-homosexuals"
Environmental factors may influence sexual orientation
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/env...al-orientation

The APA changed the definition of homosexuality not because of scientific studies, but because of political harrassment from gay lobbyists.
The Born "Gay" Hoax |


Speaking of harassment, others' rights have been denied in order to cator to "gay rights"...
Children have the right to not be taught homosexuality in school. Yet, in places where gay marriage has been enacted, these rights have been infringed upon. Here are a few examples where those with homosexual preferences have pushed their assumed rights, which infringed on the rights of others...
*Freshmen were told not to tell their parents about a pro-gay seminar & were required to sign a confidentiality agreement (Derrfield, Illinois Mar. 2007).
*In March, 2007, a Massachusetts high school banned parents from attending a seminar for students on how they can know they are homosexual.
*In October, 2008, First graders (6 year-old students) were taken on a field trip to watch their lesbian teacher's wedding.
*In Oct 2008, a Hayward CA public elementary school celebrated "Coming Out Day."

Normalizing & even encouraging children to explore homosexuality obviously causes more to experiment with homosexuality.
"The Legal Liability Associated with Homosexuality Education in Schools... This report is part of an integrated strategy to inform and educate parents, students and school officials across the nation of its contents and of their respective rights and duties. It has documented the concern that the health of students in many schools across the country may have been compromised and their First Amendment rights may have been denied."
http://www.afamichigan.org/images/Legal ... 200504.pdf

Also, others' rights have been infringed upon in favor of supporting gay rights.
*In April 2008, an Albuquerque photographer was fined over $6,000 for refusing to be hired to photograph a lesbian couple's commitment ceremony.
*In May, 2008, a black administrator was fired from the U of Toledo, Ohio, for writing an editorial objecting to the comparison of black discrimination to same-sex marriage.
*An intolerant opponent of Proposition 8 even violently attacked & injured a Proposition supporter in Oct. 2008.
*On November 19, 2008, eHarmony, a Christian-based matching service was forced by New Jersey's Division on Civil Rights to provide website matching services for homosexuals.

Same sex couples already have "rights" under common law marriage and cohabitation agreements. Legally redefining marriage is simply trying to legally force society to accept a minority's sexual deviations.
Please strive for what's best for society's emotional & physical health - especially society's future: children, by supporting their right to be raised by a mother AND father.
Please defend marriage as defined to be between a man and a woman!
This has got to be about the 21st time you have spammed these forums with this copied and pasted propaganda tripe from your favorite homobigots-r-us websites.

There are so many ignorant and malicious false claims in this post that I lost count the first time I debunked them.

You're like a gay hating energizer bunny....

Do your batteries EVER run down?

Last edited by Ceist; 05-21-2012 at 07:01 AM..
 
Old 05-21-2012, 05:56 AM
 
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Marriage in the US is between ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.
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Originally Posted by 13 Letter Crap Spreader View Post
One women
Easy mistake for him to make. Afterall there are a lot of marriagesn ni the Bible with one man and many women, plus as many concubines or slavewomen as the man could afford.
 
Old 05-21-2012, 05:58 AM
 
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Originally Posted by doctrain View Post
I see you have done your research.
Copying and pasting lies and propaganda from anti-gay religious websites is "research"?

In what reality?

It's curious how you completely ignore articles from reputable peer-reviewed professional Journals and health organizations, yet swallow this tripe without question.

Why is that?
 
Old 05-21-2012, 06:05 AM
 
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It was cute for a decade or two. It's not cute anymore.
Ignorant prejudice is never "cute".
 
Old 05-21-2012, 06:06 AM
 
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What value does a gay marriage have? what is the value of being a homosexual?

and why would children need to even know about something which we know,

has no value?
What value do you have?
 
Old 05-21-2012, 06:07 AM
 
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Originally Posted by cleatis View Post
you don't raise homosexual kids or heterosexual kids, you just raise your kids and let them sort out what they do with their anatomy.

No one teaches their kid to be straight, and when you do "teach" them they grow up with names like Fred Phelps
The Bible clearly instructs parents to teach their children " In the way that they should go..". They aren't supposed to "sort things out" themselves.
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