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Old 06-15-2012, 08:57 PM
 
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I can't think of a single Muslim country which is a democracy. All Muslim governments around the world (not just in the Middle East, but in black Africa and Southeast Asia) seem hostile to America, Israel, and democratic values. Why is this?
No-

Islam has tenets which inforce human subjugation and are in conflict with provisions of the US constitution- they are incompatidable.

Liberals, however, given the fact that Islam hates Judiasm and Christianity, has found a comfortable ally with Islam. Given that they both hate Jews and Christians, liberal are willing to embrace Islam for the time being as an ally against their "enemies". However, liberalism is left with the uncomfortable realization of ultimate conflict with Islam, given that they despise personal liberties, rights of women, rights of gays, and basic human rights.

What the hell. If you are a liberal (which is basically a modern day Nazi), you have to break a few eggs to make an omlet. I am sure that as an uncomfortable alliance withIslam will simply be a "speed bump" that needs to be eliminated later after Christians, Jews, and those who support the US Constitution are eliminated. Those pesky people who support personal liberty are more problematic than Islamo-fascists (who can be eliminated later). The main problem for liberalism is to eliminate the concept of personal liberties and the US Constitution. Other issues can be dealt with later, therefore, it is "acceptable" to embrace honor killings, terrorism, subjugation of women, killing gays, and suppression of free speech for now. That is all okay (in the mind of a liberal).

Take home message- "The mind of a liberal" is disturbed and disordered place. Do not embrace insanity to justify an "ultimate" liberal cause, as that result is extremely flawed as well.

WAKE UP

 
Old 06-15-2012, 09:17 PM
 
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Islam and democracy... can the two coexist? >>> if you mix oil and water and shake thorough and then wait for a few hours they will always seperate.

so i guess i would say no..
 
Old 06-15-2012, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Moderate conservative for Obama.
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I seen all this nonsense over in uk, i did not leave that shiithole only to relive it here in the land of the free and home of the brave. We are two worlds apart, their ignorrance in my book surpasses even those hispanics that illegally here in the US. Take it for what it is.
 
Old 10-22-2014, 03:29 PM
 
Location: southern california
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no once the muslim population is over 5% they will begin to try to challenge and eventually overthrow existing government. its not separation of church in state in islam, its eradication of state.
 
Old 10-23-2014, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Any religion that claims to be the only Word of God is inherently a tyranny of priests, preachers, rabbis and mullahs. They have to be as, in their belief, only ONE correct Word of God. The all believe they have a duty not only to God but to everyone to have that WoG spread over all of Humanity. These people cannot do anything else. They impose their belief in order to save you from yourself for your own good. The side effect of collecting huge amounts of money and political power are secondary. Yeah, right!

We go past simple monotheism and just impose our standard of oligopoly on the world. We do not tolerate any government with the gall to impose taxes, let alone any other restrictions, on Western, primarily Wall Street, investors. Our government will use any level of force, from individual assassinations to out right invasion, to discipline any people from any restriction on the Mammon given right to as much profit as possible. We are the world's enforcer of the Law of the Greedy.

We call our, being the excellent propagandists we are (Gobbles ghost lives on Madison Ave.), our installation and maintenance of our Imperial governors, installing Democracy. What we actually install is a government willing to sell off any and all natural resources we need to loot without any interference. Unfortunately most of our own population does not see the reality but accepts the lies. These lies, particularly Wall Street is on your side, are wearing thin as big business are applying the same techniques to us. They, for the sake of a forever rising stock market and positive derivatives, have imposed NAFTA, Chinese "Free Trade", and Wall-Mart on the this country. They, the investors, have realized these techniques could, and given the redistribution of wealth from the many to the few, have been very successful at concentrating wealth to the very top of the top. Now the few that have this wealth are using it to reestablish complete contol of the politics of not only the United States, but of the rest of the Western World. With the disintegration, mostly due to their own ineptness, of the "socialist" economies of the Soviet Union and China, the international tyrannies of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank, are imposing the Rule of Mammon on the rest of the world.

The only bright spot in this internationalism of the RoM is the inherent propensity of internal corruption, frequently aided by the subject governments, to by heavily suppressing any vestige of a real Free Market, to achieve systematic self destruction. I expect that the level of speculation infesting the world's capital markets will soon collapse of its own internal contradictions and inefficiencies. The sooner the better as the damage will be lessened. The actual iron clad Rule of Mammon cannot be delayed forever and the God of Greed will punish the malfeasance real sinners.
 
Old 10-23-2014, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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I can't think of a single Muslim country which is a democracy. All Muslim governments around the world (not just in the Middle East, but in black Africa and Southeast Asia) seem hostile to America, Israel, and democratic values. Why is this?

Turkey, Bangladesh , Malaysia, and Indonesia all have large populations and have stable democratic governments. Nations like Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Tanzania, Mauritius, Brunei, Niger, Jordan, Oman, The UAE, Qatar, Bahrain and Kuwait all have Muslim majorities and cooperate with the US and Europe on matters of military activities, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Tanzania, Oman, The UAE, Kuwait, Qatar, and Bahrain are members in good standing in the British Commonwealth of Nations. One shouldn't tar the Islamic world with the behavior of a few bad apples.
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