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Your president gives the credit for the 40 hour work week to the unions:
Do keep trying though.
Of course, the 40 hour work week was union derived.
No one said it wasn't.
This was not the question.
You can answer around it all you like, but you said that the 30 hour work week (as I've quoted several times) is supported by Unions. I asked where.
You never responded because you can't. Blogs and opinion pieces don't count.
Try again yourself.
Only answer the original question where you said left wing unions proposed a 30 hour work week.
That's all I'm asking, for you to back up your comment.
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Originally Posted by Marv101
Whe the heck wants to emulate the French in ANYTHING???????????
France is possibly my favorite country.
I would have no problem.
Does your current job not reward you for higher performance with increased pay? If not - then get a new job.
Not every profession offers bonuses for "performance," especially when you don't work in a profit-making field. Take me, for example, a librarian with the county... what will I get paid extra for, answering reference questions at double-speed and finding the best discount on audiobooks? If you're referring to eventual promotions, for us public sector folks, those are generally based more on seniority and staffing needs than performance. Of course the best workers will be offered those opportunities first, but it's not like an automatic "you did a great job, so here's your promotion" kind of thing. If the city doesn't need or can't afford a new supervisor, the job simply doesn't exist for you to obtain.
That being said, we don't have the option of how many hours to work... if you're full-time you work 40 (or 37.5 in some cities/counties) hours, and if you're part-time it's only 20 hours. I've had ONE job in my career that was 30 hours, and again that was a set schedule - no options to work more or less, and these hours are strictly enforced due to budgeting. Again, not everyone works in corporate or profit-making environments.
Some libraries are now offering 4-day work weeks, where you work 8-10 hours/day depending on their union or city agreements. While that could make for a rather long day, especially when you add in the unpaid 1-hour lunch and commute, it does sound awfully appealing. Given my current commute, it would also save me 1.5 driving hours and approximately 3 gallons of gas (@ around $4.25/gal currently) per week! Sounds nice to me.
Of course, the 40 hour work week was union derived.
No one said it wasn't.
This was not the question.
You can answer around it all you like, but you said that the 30 hour work week (as I've quoted several times) is supported by Unions. I asked where.
You never responded because you can't. Blogs and opinion pieces don't count.
Try again yourself.
Only answer the original question where you said left wing unions proposed a 30 hour work week.
As mentioned in my above post, the unions do have some input on our work weeks - but for the most part, that is ultimately decided by the city (or county/state) based on staffing budgets. They can propose changes in the required hours, but union members must vote and have this approved by public council. At least that's how it works with our union, which is a local SEIU.
And no, I haven't heard anything from them supporting a 30-hour work week. One city I interviewed with recently switched to a 4-day/36-hour week, which was supported by the unions... but their city council made the final call, and all public employees (except police, fire & 911) now follow that schedule. This was strictly a money-saving decision, and will be active through at least 2013.
Of course, the 40 hour work week was union derived.
No one said it wasn't.
This was not the question.
You can answer around it all you like, but you said that the 30 hour work week (as I've quoted several times) is supported by Unions. I asked where.
You never responded because you can't. Blogs and opinion pieces don't count.
Try again yourself.
Only answer the original question where you said left wing unions proposed a 30 hour work week.
That's all I'm asking, for you to back up your comment.
France is possibly my favorite country.
I would have no problem.
They support a 30 hour week with 10 hours of overtime...
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If you're referring to eventual promotions, for us public sector folks, those are generally based more on seniority and staffing needs than performance. Of course the best workers will be offered those opportunities first, but it's not like an automatic "you did a great job, so here's your promotion" kind of thing. If the city doesn't need or can't afford a new supervisor, the job simply doesn't exist for you to obtain.
