Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 05-22-2012, 10:22 AM
 
23,838 posts, read 23,035,663 times
Reputation: 9407

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackmccullough View Post
In other words, everything is a government conspiracy and the burden of disproving it falls on those who don't believe it.

I see so many posts from you, and others like you, that I think you must have a terribly miserable existence, always looking out the window or under the bed because you're so sure that the government is constantly plotting against you.
There's nothing miserable about my existence....not in the slightest. I have everything I could want or need on this planet. I'm doing just fine.

Quite simply, to question your government is patriotic. I know you have a real hard time understanding such a concept, but you should give it a try sometime. Or at least give it a try while there's a Democrat in office. We all know that your patriotism will have a full head of steam once a Republican wins the Oval Office, right?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-22-2012, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Long Island NY
556 posts, read 619,684 times
Reputation: 394
I just went thru the elevated PSA test, followed by a doctor's manual exam (yes, had an enlarged prostate) and the biopsy (came back negative). My doctor says that by eliminating the PSA test the government will be eliminating millions of tests and their costs. Also eliminating the followup exams and biopsies. So by telling every man that it's not necessary, the government will eliminate 3 potential tests. Only when you have an advanced case will you know that something is wrong.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-22-2012, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Vermont
11,754 posts, read 14,570,102 times
Reputation: 18502
Quote:
Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC View Post
Quite simply, to question your government is patriotic.
Yes it is.

Your approach, which is to scream "GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!" with absolutely no evidence, every time something happens that you don't like, is not.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-22-2012, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
3,840 posts, read 4,489,922 times
Reputation: 3088
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ohiogirl81 View Post
What law? This was a recommendation, not a law. Consult a dictionary before you post.
I believe they were referring to Obamacare as the "Law" and not the recommendation on mammograms.

Critical thinking is your friend.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-22-2012, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Texas
44,257 posts, read 64,077,267 times
Reputation: 73913
I'll tell my dead uncle he never needed that screen for his cancer.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-22-2012, 10:45 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
6,933 posts, read 8,458,810 times
Reputation: 3510
Quote:
Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC View Post
The CDC is led by a political appointee. I believe it is you that is ignorant of how government actually works.
From a FOX News report on the matter:

Quote:
The US Preventive Services Task Force recommended a "D" grade for prostate-specific-antigen, or PSA, testing which has been widely used for almost two decades to screen men for prostate cancer.
This is a recommendation from a task force. Not an official policy statement or regulation of the CDC.

Here's what appears to be a current list of the Task Force members, none of which are government employees:

http://www.uspreventiveservicestaskf...rg/members.htm
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-22-2012, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
31,767 posts, read 28,714,136 times
Reputation: 12341
Quote:
Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC View Post
You know, that was the first thing that crossed my mind when I saw this report on the news tonight. My default position is that this whole change of heart is likely the result of the Obama Administration looking for ways to make Obamacare less costly to the government through fewer tests.

It's very transparent to me that that's what's going on here.
And private insurance companies won't? Your loyalty to them, and hatred of President Obama is appalling.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-22-2012, 10:48 AM
 
23,838 posts, read 23,035,663 times
Reputation: 9407
Quote:
Originally Posted by CanalsLB View Post
I just went thru the elevated PSA test, followed by a doctor's manual exam (yes, had an enlarged prostate) and the biopsy (came back negative). My doctor says that by eliminating the PSA test the government will be eliminating millions of tests and their costs. Also eliminating the followup exams and biopsies. So by telling every man that it's not necessary, the government will eliminate 3 potential tests. Only when you have an advanced case will you know that something is wrong.
And therein lies the REAL answer as to why this "new finding" was put forth. We are currently in the "posturing and conditioning" phase.....the cost "benefit" phase is right around the corner. Standby for the headlines proclaiming the boon to Obamacare via cost savings. They'll surely be put forth in short order, which was the whole idea from the get-go.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-22-2012, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
31,767 posts, read 28,714,136 times
Reputation: 12341
Quote:
Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC View Post
And therein lies the REAL answer as to why this "new finding" was put forth. We are currently in the "posturing and conditioning" phase.....the cost "benefit" phase is right around the corner. Standby for the headlines proclaiming the boon to Obamacare via cost savings. They'll surely be put forth in short order, which was the whole idea from the get-go.
Okay, explain to me how Obamacare is to be blamed for this.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-22-2012, 10:55 AM
 
23,838 posts, read 23,035,663 times
Reputation: 9407
Quote:
Originally Posted by gomexico View Post
From a FOX News report on the matter:



This is a recommendation from a task force. Not an official policy statement or regulation of the CDC.

Here's what appears to be a current list of the Task Force members, none of which are government employees:

About the USPSTF: Current Members
Oh brother.

The Task Force is led by the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, a division of the Department of Health and Human Services. Guess who developed Obamacare policy?

Had this "new finding" been detrimental to Obamacare, it never would have seen the light of day. Do you disagree?

I promise i'm not trying to be condescending, but seriously, you should stop taking everything that comes forth from the government as unbiased. EVERYTHING that eminates from the government is biased for political gain. Please, do your due diligence and understand that there's vast government reach in everything that comes from Washington DC.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:02 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top