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Old 05-22-2012, 03:59 PM
 
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I think you're wrong. If this was a murder trial, and you said things to others about your intention to kill for example, I think they have every reason to look into all correspondence, text, email, etc.
Yes its called getting a warrant. I wouldn't have a choice then. They are getting a divorce this wasn't a murder trial.BIG differences.
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Old 05-22-2012, 04:31 PM
 
Location: The Other California
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The old, if you have nothing to hide, then you wont mind is bs. Why dont you give me your facebook login information so I can check it out? I bet you wont, will you?
I'm not on FB. But if I were, I wouldn't give my login to you.

That you are unable to distinguish between marital relationships and a relationship between complete strangers on a C-D message board who have corresponded anonymously exactly once doesn't bode well for this conversation.
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:15 PM
 
Location: California
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I knew all my H's passwords and if he didn't tell me I knew how to get them. LOL.
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:11 PM
 
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Traystman says he reviewed his own client’s accounts before doing this and knew he had nothing to hide.
If I was the wife's attorney I'd be asking for information from Facebook about any recent activity on the husbands account such as what was deleted before they requested the wife's password.
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Ah. Well I would have told the judge to jump off a damn bridge then. Ain't none of anyone's business what is said between me and others.I hope the person that was told to turn over the pw said no or just defied the idiot judge.
Which part of "it is a law suit" do you not understand?

There's no doubt in my mind that you are not at all familiar with the Rules of Civil Procedure, or the Rules of Evidence, or Discovery.

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Yes its called getting a warrant. I wouldn't have a choice then. They are getting a divorce this wasn't a murder trial.BIG differences.
Um, that is what a subpoena in a civil case is: a warrant.

Holy cow. You might want to refrain from commenting on legal issues in the future.

Legally...

Mircea

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Thats correct, but what does apply here is an expectation of privacy.
It's a law suit, there is no expectation of privacy.

Being intimately familiar with Discovery, and in particular Electronic Discovery, I would be issuing Requests for Production for material stored on her computer. It is relevant to the issues at hand, for these reasons, and more:

1] Rebuttal evidence. Example: Spouse claims "extreme emotional distress." Petitioner's use of Electronic Discovery reveals spouse's e-mails, and FacePuke account to show that no such condition of "extreme emotional distress existed," and that spouse bragged to friends and family members that she was playing the petitioner.

2] Asset Discovery: Petitioner's use of Electronic Discovery reveals that spouse has hid or intends to hide marital assets, or is in possession of marital assets that Petitioner has no knowledge of. For example, spouse may own a condominium for use in adulterous relationships and had purchased said condominium prior to the Petitioner's relationship with spouse.

3] Evidence: Petitioner's use of Electronic Discovery shows that spouse's e-mails and FacePuke account show evidence of adultery. Petitioner then files a motion with the court to amend the original complaint changing the divorce from "no-fault" to "for fault on grounds of adultery" and in a State like Ohio, that means spouse automatically loses and pays all court costs and attorney fees, plus for a man, that would mean he doesn't have to pay alimony and might get reduced child support payments, and in the best case scenario, a man might even have a shot of getting joint custody of the children (other he'd never be able to see them).

4] Mitigation: Petitioner's use of Electronic Discovery might provide evidence for mitigating circumstances.

5] Frauds: Petitioner's use of Electronic Discovery could provide evidence of a sham marriage, which is a fraud and to which the spouse is entitled to absolutely nothing in terms of property, assets or spousal support.

There is absolutely nothing different here than in the past. Petitioner has every right to issue a subpoena to spouse's friends, co-workers, family and acquaintances to appear at Deposition, and under Sworn Oath and Penalty of Perjury or Suborning Perjury, answer questions truthfully and honestly to the fullest extent.

What the computer and FacePuke have done, is made it incredibly easy to do that, as well as less time consuming and cheaper as well.

Mircea's 3rd Law of Successful Happy Living:

If you don't want it known; then don't do it.


Procedurally...

Mircea
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Old 05-23-2012, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Earth
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I agree there should be no secrets between people that are married and I agree parents should monitor what their children are saying,hearing and watching but these people were getting a divorce I see no reason they needed each others correspondence with other people.My wife knows my PW and I know hers. No reason to keep them from each other because there is nothing to hide but for a judge to demand them to swap pw is outside his jurisdiction and is pretty much putting him in the middle of their married life.
What?
I'm married to, not owned by another.
Let's try a small dose of reality here. Everyone has secrets. Everyone.

Not all secrets are earth shattering.
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