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Old 05-24-2012, 11:12 PM
 
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That is very sad, I am sorry it happened to you. You can find healing and the peace you seek though. Rachels vineyard ministeries helps thousands of women and men who have been affected by abortion and are hurting. You may already know about them but maybe others don't, so here is a link.

Rachel's Vineyard Ministries
Janelle, you are a sincere and kind soul. I was one of millions of selfish, young girls in my twenties. I was living at home with parents of upper-middle class status that would have loved to have given this precious life a home.

I was part of a clique of girls of which several had had abortions, one, Jerri had had three before I married and left Texas. Oh, we read that the pill could cause blood clotting issues, and had an excuse for every type of birth control, so! Abortion was our birth control as it was for countless girls in my high school, and for many of us for several years after HS.

Thank you, Janelle. I have forgiven myself and know that God has, too. I abhor what I did, and why I did it. I'm really at peace and what I experienced firsthand gives me reason to share it with others when I can.
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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So, its ok with you that the mothers are getting fired from their jobs because they are pregnant?
Really?



No one said that and you know no one said that.

If you can't defend your position, it's probably because your position is indefensible.
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:17 PM
 
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Tell us Janelle.....where in the United States can a woman get an abortion at 9 months just because she feels like it?

Pro-lifers can't win the abortion debate with facts.....so they resort to making things up.

That's what I see in your little video.
That is not MY video. More than half of Americans are now against abortion but most pro-choice people do not want to see that.
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:18 PM
 
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While the tape sounds bad, just like the Zimmerman case, we don't know what's going on for sure yet. You would think the county would know it's illegal to fire someone for being pregnant.
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:19 PM
 
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Janelle, you are a sincere and kind soul. I was one of millions of selfish, young girls in my twenties. I was living at home with parents of upper-middle class status that would have loved to have given this precious life a home.

I was part of a clique of girls of which several had had abortions, one, Jerri had had three before I married and left Texas. Oh, we read that the pill could cause blood clotting issues, and had an excuse for every type of birth control, so! Abortion was our birth control as it was for countless girls in my high school, and for many of us for several years after HS.

Thank you, Janelle. I have forgiven myself and know that God has, too. I abhor what I did, and why I did it. I'm really at peace and what I experienced firsthand gives me reason to share it with others when I can.

(((((((Sunnysee))))))))
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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That is not MY video. More than half of Americans are now against abortion but most pro-choice people do not want to see that.
Most of the people in that video were OK with early term abortion.

It wasn't until someone told them that abortions were being done up to 9 months that they objected.

I would LOVE to hear everything that was said during those interviews.....especially how the interviewer framed the questions.
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:33 PM
 
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Most of the people in that video were OK with early term abortion.

It wasn't until someone told them that abortions were being done up to 9 months that they objected.

I would LOVE to hear everything that was said during those interviews.....especially how the interviewer framed the questions.
You can hear the question. Did you know a woman can get an abortion up to the moment of birth? You can't make that question anymore startling than it is.
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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The Gestation I listed is the legal limit, per viability, in 38 states? I think it is and yes, they are. In some of those states the mother doesn't have to prove her life is endangered.

Let's talk about the fact that the babies in the womb are not given any anesthesia, but we are even for a simple tooth extraction. Yeah! let's face the fact that abortion is not just the killing, but the painful vacuuming off of arms and legs.

Fetuses do not even have the necessary hardware to detect pain before the 24th week.

If an abortion is necessary after the 24th week, I see no reason why anesthesia shouldn't be administered to the fetus.
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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You can hear the question. Did you know a woman can get an abortion up to the moment of birth? You can't make that question anymore startling than it is.
Startling? More like deceptive.

You don't have a problem with how that question is worded? To make it sound like a woman can just waltz into a clinic and get an abortion at 9 months just because she feels like it?

Did the interviewer explain the circumstances under which late term abortions are performed off camera?

If not, the interviews are worthless, as the participants were given misleading information......deliberatley.
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:40 PM
 
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Fetuses do not even have the necessary hardware to detect pain before the 24th week.

If an abortion is necessary after the 24th week, I see no reason why anesthesia shouldn't be administered to the fetus.
I am not sure if that is right but I am sure they won't administer anesthesia since they would need to admit they are dealing with a real baby, a real person, a real life. No one hears the baby's cries so they don't care.
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