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My mother almost aborted me. Her sister (who has had four abortions) even accompanied her to the clinic. They ended up leaving during the waiting period though. I 100% support her right to do what she wishes with her body. Doesn't effect my mindset one bit.
Ever have a 3 or 4 year old hear the word and ask you what it means? And you really can't make it seem good that a mommy doesn't love her baby and decides to have it killed.
If pro-lifers were truly "pro-life," they would all be vehemently for federal/state aid to dependent children, strong public education systems, socialized healthcare for children, etc. Anything that would be giving the kids a fighting chance. Alas, their only concern seems to be with the delivery of the baby. After that, you're on your own, kid.
Being "pro life" means from cradle to grave not from womb to obstetrician. So, if you are going to attempt to label people who are "pro-choice" as "pro-abortion," you should probably re-label yourselves as "pro-birth" because its the only part you really seem to care about.
If pro-lifers were truly "pro-life," they would all be vehemently for federal/state aid to dependent children, strong public education systems, socialized healthcare for children, etc. Anything that would be giving the kids a fighting chance. Alas, their only concern seems to be with the delivery of the baby. After that, you're on your own, kid.
Being "pro life" means from cradle to grave not from womb to obstetrician. So, if you are going to attempt to label people who are "pro-choice" as "pro-abortion," you should probably re-label yourselves as "pro-birth" because its the only part you really seem to care about.
Oh, that's silly.
Pro-lifers only care about unborn fetuses. Once the baby is born, they don't care if the baby has food, medical care, or education.
If pro-lifers were truly "pro-life," they would all be vehemently for federal/state aid to dependent children, strong public education systems, socialized healthcare for children, etc. Anything that would be giving the kids a fighting chance. Alas, their only concern seems to be with the delivery of the baby. After that, you're on your own, kid.
Being "pro life" means from cradle to grave not from womb to obstetrician. So, if you are going to attempt to label people who are "pro-choice" as "pro-abortion," you should probably re-label yourselves as "pro-birth" because its the only part you really seem to care about.
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Oh, that's silly.
Pro-lifers only care about unborn fetuses. Once the baby is born, they don't care if the baby has food, medical care, or education.
Yup, the greatest hypocrisy of the "Pro-Life" (Anti-Choice-Anti-Women)group.
And their history proves it.
Their whole goal is to subjugate women to the role of breeding stock.
Pro-lifers only care about unborn fetuses. Once the baby is born, they don't care if the baby has food, medical care, or education.
They usually don't care about the fetus either. Ask one of these self righteous cyborgs about who will supply pre-natal care and proper nutrition to poor mothers and they start spouting the party line about "personal responsibility." In the case of a poor, would-be mother, it could easily be argued from her perspective that an abortion would be the 'responsible' thing to do if she couldn't afford to care for the child. But then, I suppose the cyborg would just switch to its abstinence script because lord knows we can't have birth control.
If pro-lifers were truly "pro-life," they would all be vehemently for federal/state aid to dependent children, strong public education systems, socialized healthcare for children, etc. Anything that would be giving the kids a fighting chance. Alas, their only concern seems to be with the delivery of the baby. After that, you're on your own, kid.
Being "pro life" means from cradle to grave not from womb to obstetrician. So, if you are going to attempt to label people who are "pro-choice" as "pro-abortion," you should probably re-label yourselves as "pro-birth" because its the only part you really seem to care about.
Yep, once they are born they become a problem for pro lifers. Just another welfare mouth to feed. Gives them something else to complain about. And when crime goes up, there is another complaint. I think they just want to think they are "saving lives". In reality a fetus is not alive.
If pro-lifers were truly "pro-life," they would all be vehemently for federal/state aid to dependent children, strong public education systems, socialized healthcare for children, etc. Anything that would be giving the kids a fighting chance. Alas, their only concern seems to be with the delivery of the baby. After that, you're on your own, kid.
Being "pro life" means from cradle to grave not from womb to obstetrician. So, if you are going to attempt to label people who are "pro-choice" as "pro-abortion," you should probably re-label yourselves as "pro-birth" because its the only part you really seem to care about.
How much more taxpayer money should we throw at the failing education system, which really doesn't go for the children, but actually goes to shore up union pensions and benefits?
DC has a per pupil funding of about $15,000...on the level with the very BEST private schools.
It is the UNIONS that don't want to give children a fair shot and they do this by keeping kids in failing schools, opposing vouchers (CHOICE for parents).
Amazing the Left is all about CHOICE...except for when it comes to kids getting out of dangerous, failed schools.
I do believe ALL states have free or nearly free child healthcare (SCHIP).
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They usually don't care about the fetus either. Ask one of these self righteous cyborgs about who will supply pre-natal care and proper nutrition to poor mothers and they start spouting the party line about "personal responsibility." In the case of a poor, would-be mother, it could easily be argued from her perspective that an abortion would be the 'responsible' thing to do if she couldn't afford to care for the child. But then, I suppose the cyborg would just switch to its abstinence script because lord knows we can't have birth control.
No, we don't object to helping poor mothers and their children, as a temporary measure UNTIL they can get a job and on their feet. It is the "poor" mother that pops out kid after kid in order to get MORE welfare and government assistance, with no thought at all of EVER getting off the rolls. The generational welfare family, a scam to bilk the taxpayers taught from one generation to the next.
There is nothing moral about the movements constant harassment, physical intimidation, and murder of abortion providers, their staff, and even their landlords.
There is nothing moral about the movement setting camp in front of schools with pictures of medical procedures and starting fights to record on camera.
There is nothing moral about pro-lifers wishing to prevent abortion even in the circumstance where the pregnancy threatens the life of the mother.
There is nothing moral about championing to outlaw abortion, contraception, and help for those who have to pay for your demands on their family planning.
What's moral about abortion? In order for the items you mentioned to be immoral, you first need to hypothesize that abortion itself is moral. Tell us why you believe killing a fetus is moral.
How much more taxpayer money should we throw at the failing education system, which really doesn't go for the children, but actually goes to shore up union pensions and benefits?
DC has a per pupil funding of about $15,000...on the level with the very BEST private schools.
It is the UNIONS that don't want to give children a fair shot and they do this by keeping kids in failing schools, opposing vouchers (CHOICE for parents).
Amazing the Left is all about CHOICE...except for when it comes to kids getting out of dangerous, failed schools.
I do believe ALL states have free or nearly free child healthcare (SCHIP).
No, we don't object to helping poor mothers and their children, as a temporary measure UNTIL they can get a job and on their feet. It is the "poor" mother that pops out kid after kid in order to get MORE welfare and government assistance, with no thought at all of EVER getting off the rolls. The generational welfare family, a scam to bilk the taxpayers taught from one generation to the next.
So if you don't APPROVE of the mother's lifestyle THEN you feel the children should suffer and you pull your support....and screw those kids!
If pro-lifers were truly "pro-life," they would all be vehemently for federal/state aid to dependent children, strong public education systems, socialized healthcare for children, etc. Anything that would be giving the kids a fighting chance. Alas, their only concern seems to be with the delivery of the baby. After that, you're on your own, kid.
Being "pro life" means from cradle to grave not from womb to obstetrician. So, if you are going to attempt to label people who are "pro-choice" as "pro-abortion," you should probably re-label yourselves as "pro-birth" because its the only part you really seem to care about.
Ridiculous and shallow thought process you've got going here. There IS federal/state aid to dependent children to the tune of BILLIONs of dollars....we DO advocate for strong public schools....we DO have socialized healthcare for children. Pro-lifers have done NOTHING to indicate that they DON'T advocate for those things. In fact, we regularly advocate that EVERY child be given a chance....hence the hatred of abortion!!
Can we get a liberal on this forum with a smattering of deeper thought? Someone, anyone? Please??????? These strawman fallacies are really getting old.
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