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Old 10-26-2013, 04:40 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Yep, they sure are a fine example of high tech efficient Oil Cos.....

ND Spills Went Unreported; State Testing Website - ABC News
North Dakota Oil Spill: Tesoro Corp. Pipeline Breaks Near Tioga; Dumps More Than 20,000 Barrels Of Crude
AP report: Hundreds of North Dakota oil spills not reported - Rick Kupchella's - BringMeTheNews.com
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Old 10-26-2013, 04:51 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Yep. All these new pipelines will be transporting shale oil, which is very thick. A special agent is added to make it flow more smoothly, but it's extremely corrosive and eats away at pipelines.
Good luck.
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Old 10-26-2013, 07:06 AM
 
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They are following the law....of course now we know we need more regulations...right, to cover the regulations that the left does not like....from link 1:

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North Dakota regulators, like in many other oil-producing states, are not obliged to tell the public about oil spills under state law.
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The release of oil has been stopped, Roberts said. Spread out over 7.3 acres, or about the size of seven football fields, the spill has been contained. Tesoro said no water sources were contaminated, no wildlife was hurt and there weren't any injuries.
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North Dakota now produces a million barrels a day and in the past year added nearly 2,500 miles of new pipelines to its existing 17,500 miles of pipelines.
Not sure what the problem is?

Everything was/is contained....no harm no damage....
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Old 10-26-2013, 07:10 AM
 
Location: 77441
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Im happy the OP in is self-rightious indignation doesnt drive a car or use electricity...
otherwise hed sound like just another *******...
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Old 10-26-2013, 07:11 AM
 
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Oh, and in true leftist form and following the ACA BS drivel the left is spewing...

It's the LAW OF THE LAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are OBEYING THE LAW....

Get over it, it's not gonna change, it's here to stay....deal with it.............
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Old 10-26-2013, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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You should really stop your whining, millions of miles of pipelines globally and very few spills. Do you drive, light your home, heat your home. How do you propose we get oil to the refineries, Fuel to the trucks that deliver it to gas stations? Gas to your home to heat it? Typical liberal hack, lots of complaints, no solutions!
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Old 10-26-2013, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
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Too many unknown factors to make an intelligent decision about the cause of this accident...

What was the age of the line?
Distribution, Product, feeder line, gathering line, just what kind of line was it? None of the articles says?
What kind of testing was done on it?
External corrosion? Internal corrosion? Internal or external damage?
How long since the last pig was run?
Third party damage?

And yes.. I'm going to mention the elephant in the room.. The boom in N.D. is causing unqualified people to be doing jobs that quite frankly a lot of them are not trained to do. So if this was a "new" line, it's highly possible that it was done by a fly-by night contractor with less than qualified employees. I hope not.. but it wouldn't be the first time that I've seen this.
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Old 10-26-2013, 08:19 AM
 
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Im happy the OP in is self-rightious indignation doesnt drive a car or use electricity...
otherwise hed sound like just another *******...
Conservatards drive cars now without the Keystone sludgeline. Do they really think we need this crap to continue our wasteful ways?
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Old 10-26-2013, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Too many unknown factors to make an intelligent decision about the cause of this accident...

What was the age of the line?
Distribution, Product, feeder line, gathering line, just what kind of line was it? None of the articles says?
What kind of testing was done on it?
External corrosion? Internal corrosion? Internal or external damage?
How long since the last pig was run?
Third party damage?

And yes.. I'm going to mention the elephant in the room.. The boom in N.D. is causing unqualified people to be doing jobs that quite frankly a lot of them are not trained to do. So if this was a "new" line, it's highly possible that it was done by a fly-by night contractor with less than qualified employees. I hope not.. but it wouldn't be the first time that I've seen this.
When the spills go unreported it makes it difficult to get info to make intelligent decisions on the issue. Gee, I wonder why a lot of oil producing States don't require reporting spills? Hummmmm.
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Old 10-26-2013, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
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When the spills go unreported it makes it difficult to get info to make intelligent decisions on the issue. Gee, I wonder why a lot of oil producing States don't require reporting spills? Hummmmm.
LOL.. Are you really that clueless? They require reporting spills to the required agency. They don't require reporting it to the general public. A bad hang-nail by a worker has to be an OSHA reportable these days. Right now on this job... there are 3 inspectors for every 1 actual get-in-the-dirt and get er' done worker. Even folks like me know that everything is not perfect on the line.. but the difference we're willing to admit it, and taking the steps towards fixing it. What are you doing? Really bob... you can sit in your Lazy-boy and spew as much hatred towards the oil/gas industry as you want, because you'll find some source to quote only your side of the issue. When you actually LEARN that there are two sides to an issue.. some good.. some bad... then maybe you can make an informed opinion.
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