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I was suggesting he hitchike a ride from those that are buying the car insurance and maintaining their vehicles. What would happen to all the auto repair shops, Napa Auto Parts stores et al, tire shops, gas stations, state registration fees, insurance companies, revenue from traffic stops and CHP. We have a huge infrastructure in place for the cars, with a lot of jobs depending upon us driving. It's a voluntary system, that's why we have taxi's, rental cars, buses. You can order to have items delivered. Everybody can do their thing.
With these quaint urban villages, haven't you wondered what kind of jobs they will have in the business zone? Ice cream shops, healthfood stores, what?
I was suggesting he hitchike a ride from those that are buying the car insurance and maintaining their vehicles. What would happen to all the auto repair shops, Napa Auto Parts stores et al, tire shops, gas stations, state registration fees, insurance companies, revenue from traffic stops and CHP. We have a huge infrastructure in place for the cars, with a lot of jobs depending upon us driving. It's a voluntary system, that's why we have taxi's, rental cars, buses. You can order to have items delivered. Everybody can do their thing.
With these quaint urban villages, haven't you wondered what kind of jobs they will have in the business zone? Ice cream shops, healthfood stores, what?
I updated my post, as it dawned on me what you meant. We have tech on our side. The current model for the auto industry has actually held back technology due to the financial interests. You can have many different types of jobs.
As far as manufacturing well that is a different animal, but tech is also changing that drastically. Things change. It is natural, but just like people fearing "automation" computers created tons of jobs.
I do believe in choice. One size doesn't fit all.
Is there a chance you could provide a link to this map? It sounds too much like something you may have picked up at ICLEI since you are so taken in by what they want, like the map that Agenda 21 has that shows the rest of the country as new animal kingdom. Is that what you are showing us? Have you people determined where your food will come from?
This map shows everything in just what it proposes but where does the food come from. Those of us in the supposedly uninhabited areas would soon be gone and then what would be used for the Soiylent Green type of food.
A link is very necessary for us to accept your map. Link, link, link.
The Rural areas that are still left , the Northeastern cities encourage small private farmers to sell in the cities...its preferred over large corporations..which often ignores the inner cities. Most of the Midwest will remain untouched and still be used for Farming... Those maps have very little to do with A21...its just populated regions....
I updated my post, as it dawned on me what you meant. We have tech on our side. The current model for the auto industry has actually held back technology due to the financial interests. You can have many different types of jobs.
As far as manufacturing well that is a different animal, but tech is also changing that drastically. Things change. It is natural, but just like people fearing "automation" computers created tons of jobs.
I do believe in choice. One size doesn't fit all.
So you expect the people living in these urban communites will work on computers? I don't think I'm following you.
So you expect the people living in these urban communites will work on computers? I don't think I'm following you.
Sure. Well computers are just part of tech. I am saying tech allows many options in many areas. A "village" model doesn't mean you can't have many diff types of svcs or products. Not unless you get into strange zoning, but that is a different issue. The design issues are very different from the govt/ admin side of it.
The site you mentioned. ic.org has tons of grass roots communities that are very creative and innovative. Really interesting. Now that doesn't mean that everything about any of these grps is perfect.
Here is one that is very successful. Been around for awhile. They got the nature thing, sustainability, self-sufficiency and tech. All in "cottage" industry. I am not recommending this as a model of how things should be. Just showing real people going out and solving problems. Many "communities" haven't been successful due to funding mostly. Another one on there has taken care of the needs of over 100 people with a good quality of life for as little as 10,000 per person a yr. Another one has a free book that shows a "village" model that has a corporate financial model, self sustaining, cashless with small cash funding.
Tax money is different. That should involve tax payers. Just like with public schools. Things get muddied cause it's everybody's money. One of the reasons I am not a fan of big govt. I think it is important not to confuse the issues; environmental, designs, funding, govt, zoning etc...
I am against the UN entirely. I hate the idea of social engineering that liberals and the UN are forcing on us....
that being said, I have never understood the need for that formal living room in the front of big houses.
the space is better off being put in other areas like the actual living room where everyone goes.
My house was built 50+ years ago and it has a formal living room and formal dining room. Neither is used more than 3-4 times a year. I talked to a contractor about tearing the wall down between the formals and the den, but since it's a load-bearing wall it would be tricky and pricey, so I decided against it. If that wall wasn't load-bearing it'd be gone by now.
My house was built 50+ years ago and it has a formal living room and formal dining room. Neither is used more than 3-4 times a year. I talked to a contractor about tearing the wall down between the formals and the den, but since it's a load-bearing wall it would be tricky and pricey, so I decided against it. If that wall wasn't load-bearing it'd be gone by now.
Maybe you can cut a "window" hole to open it up. Certainly can use mirrors, but those solutions don't really let you use the space better just open it up "cosmetically". Yeah that design is limited.
1990 Population : 43 Million
2000 Population : 49 Million
2010 Population : 53 Million
2025 Population : 58.1 Million
2050 Population : 75.8 Million[/color]
2010 Transit Daily Usage : 20.4 Million
2025 Transit Daily Usage : 35 Million
2050 Transit Daily Usage : 50 Million
Sure. Well computers are just part of tech. I am saying tech allows many options in many areas. A "village" model doesn't mean you can't have many diff types of svcs or products. Not unless you get into strange zoning, but that is a different issue. The design issues are very different from the govt/ admin side of it.
The site you mentioned. ic.org has tons of grass roots communities that are very creative and innovative. Really interesting. Now that doesn't mean that everything about any of these grps is perfect.
Here is one that is very successful. Been around for awhile. They got the nature thing, sustainability, self-sufficiency and tech. All in "cottage" industry. I am not recommending this as a model of how things should be. Just showing real people going out and solving problems. Many "communities" haven't been successful due to funding mostly. Another one on there has taken care of the needs of over 100 people with a good quality of life for as little as 10,000 per person a yr. Another one has a free book that shows a "village" model that has a corporate financial model, self sustaining, cashless with small cash funding.
Tax money is different. That should involve tax payers. Just like with public schools. Things get muddied cause it's everybody's money. One of the reasons I am not a fan of big govt. I think it is important not to confuse the issues; environmental, designs, funding, govt, zoning etc...
You said they are real people going out and solving problems, what problems are they solving?
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2010 Transit Daily Usage : 20.4 Million 2025 Transit Daily Usage : 35 Million 2050 Transit Daily Usage : 50 Million
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yeah, so, what's your point?
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