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Old 05-26-2012, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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i'm confused. The resort accepts both gay and heterosexual guests but will not allow homosexual wedding receptions. The club accepts both gay and heterosexual customers but will not allow heterosexual pre-wedding events.

Please explain how the two are different.
there are no homosexual bachelorette parties either.

No wedding = no bachelorette party.


Allowing receptions for heterosexuals but not for homosexuals = excluding one group but not the other.
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Old 05-26-2012, 05:00 PM
 
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I'm confused. The resort accepts both gay and heterosexual guests but will not allow homosexual wedding receptions. The club accepts both gay and heterosexual customers but will not allow heterosexual pre-wedding events.

Please explain how the two are different.
the gay bar just banned ALL bachelorette parties until the marriage thing is lifted. They're just making a point that straights can't do it either until lesbians can. It's NOT that hard to understand
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Old 05-26-2012, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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the gay bar just banned ALL bachelorette parties until the marriage thing is lifted. They're just making a point that straights can't do it either until lesbians can. It's NOT that hard to understand
Like a 5 year old that stamps his feet and says he'll stop breathing unless you give him what he wants ?
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Old 05-26-2012, 05:06 PM
 
Location: USA
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Many of these women who go to these gay bachelorette parties or have them at gay bars are in fact against gay marriage and gay rights.

They simply have them at gay bars to mock them, go up to gay men and say "Oh, I wish you were straight", "Why can't you be straight?", "You're such a waste.", etc, and think it's 'funny'.

I see it all the time, frankly its irritating. So I can see the bar's point.
Yup, this happens a lot down south where I live.
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Old 05-26-2012, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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there are no homosexual bachelorette parties either.

No wedding = no bachelorette party.


Allowing receptions for heterosexuals but not for homosexuals = excluding one group but not the other.

So what you're saying is that until gays can get married (legally, that is), there will be no more bachelorette parties for ANYONE. So the gay bar is making an across-the-board ban on ALL bachelorette parties. They are discriminating against lesbians, too, who might want to throw a party to celebrate one last time before making a formal commitment to each other. OK, got it.
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Old 05-26-2012, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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So what you're saying is that until gays can get married (legally, that is), there will be no more bachelorette parties for ANYONE. So the gay bar is making an across-the-board ban on ALL bachelorette parties. They are discriminating against lesbians, too, who might want to throw a party to celebrate one last time before making a formal commitment to each other. OK, got it.
It is not discrimination if the activity is banned for everyone, unlike the resort that only bans one group from having events.
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Old 05-26-2012, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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I think the bar owes all the homophobic, conservative women out there who planned on having their bachelorette parties there a big apology.
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Old 05-26-2012, 06:02 PM
 
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The gay club is OK with heterosexual customers.

The resort is OK with gay customers.

The gay club has forbidden bachelorette parties.

The resort would not allow a gay wedding reception.

I don't see any difference.
How can you not see the difference?

The Vermont resort allowed straight wedding receptions but not a gay wedding reception. That's discrimination.

The LA club does not allow either Straight OR Gay bachelorette parties. That's not discrimination.

There can't BE gay or lesbian bachelor/bachelorette parties because gay and lesbian couples are ALREADY discriminated against because of Prop 8.
In Vermont, gay and lesbian couples CAN get married.
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Old 05-26-2012, 06:06 PM
 
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So what you're saying is that until gays can get married (legally, that is), there will be no more bachelorette parties for ANYONE. So the gay bar is making an across-the-board ban on ALL bachelorette parties. They are discriminating against lesbians, too, who might want to throw a party to celebrate one last time before making a formal commitment to each other. OK, got it.
Is a 'formal commitment' a marriage without a marriage license? No.
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Old 05-26-2012, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I'm confused. The resort accepts both gay and heterosexual guests but will not allow homosexual wedding receptions. The club accepts both gay and heterosexual customers but will not allow heterosexual pre-wedding events.

Please explain how the two are different.
They aren't - but jj has to pretend that they are or otherwise lose the argument. By being obtuse however, she has accomplished the same result.
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