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Old 05-28-2012, 03:17 AM
 
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In America, most black people and a surprising number of white people are multiracial.
Yes and no. Blacks most have some admixture of European and native blood. Some are Black americans are closer to mulatto and a few are quadroon. However most are MOSTLY west African.

 
Old 05-28-2012, 06:18 AM
 
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It's time to get the government out of race completely -- and that means no more race based affirmative action, job quotas, scholarships.

Get rid of the race box on the census and every government form. It's really the government more than anything that keeps the race thing going. Who else comes along and asks you your race?
 
Old 05-28-2012, 06:38 AM
 
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It's time to get the government out of race completely -- and that means no more race based affirmative action, job quotas, scholarships.

Get rid of the race box on the census and every government form. It's really the government more than anything that keeps the race thing going. Who else comes along and asks you your race?
What does any of this nonsense have to do with the original question?

LMAO..."race based job quotas." Where? Tell me the corporations so I can see if I can get one of those high paying race based jobs. According to you, there must be millions of 'em out there.

Scholarships? You're gonna tell the Urban League or the JDL that they can't issue scholarships to students of their own stripe?

Buncha knee jerk conservative claptrap you're talking.
 
Old 05-28-2012, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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It's time to get the government out of race completely -- and that means no more race based affirmative action, job quotas, scholarships.

Get rid of the race box on the census and every government form. It's really the government more than anything that keeps the race thing going. Who else comes along and asks you your race?
I couldn't rep you so I'll just say, 'AMEN'!
 
Old 05-28-2012, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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You shoud put that blame on the bold face lie called White supremacy.
I prefer to put the blame on BIG GOVERNMENT and those that believe more government is the solution to every problem. We should eliminate all race questions on all government documents.
 
Old 05-28-2012, 06:55 AM
 
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It's time to get the government out of race completely -- and that means no more race based affirmative action, job quotas, scholarships.

Get rid of the race box on the census and every government form. It's really the government more than anything that keeps the race thing going. Who else comes along and asks you your race?

Exactly. Big Government perpetuates the racial divide.
 
Old 05-28-2012, 06:57 AM
 
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LMAO..."race based job quotas." Where? Tell me the corporations so I can see if I can get one of those high paying race based jobs. According to you, there must be millions of 'em out there.
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There are millions of them out there. Been there and seen it.
 
Old 05-28-2012, 07:11 AM
 
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I'd like some opinions here. Do you think the "One Drop Rule" still applies here in the U.S.?

-And if not who is Black here in America?



-Can person classified as "Black" choose to be "White" if he/she has enough Causasian blood?


-Any why are people who have heavy amounts of Black ancestry (think carbbean hispanics) not viewed as Black but as White?

Thank you in advance for your replies.
Apart from the guy one from the far right they are all black

Race has nothing to do with genetics.

Race is a social category. So all of them (bar the guy one from the far right) would be considered black because to anyone who they interact with, they will appear black.

And that's all that really matters

Employers, loan officers, police, teachers, and average everyday folks on the street would look at them, presume their blackness, and treat them accordingly.

Which is to say, the presumptions of competence, law-abidingness, credit-worthiness and general intelligence would not be given to them, the way they are to white people, no matter what their genes may or may not say about them.

Blackness has nothing to do with genetics. Blackness is given by the society based on what people presume you to be. And that presumption has nothing to do with genotype — since observers cannot know their DNA just by looking at them — but rather, everything to do with phenotype, which is to say the way certain genes are expressed outwardly, as with skin pigmentation, and a handful of other characteristics, which are controlled by about six genes out of 30,000 in the overall human genome.
 
Old 05-28-2012, 07:57 AM
 
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The weird thing is ALL of is started out in East Africa; so much for that "1 Drop Rule" BS.
 
Old 05-28-2012, 08:28 AM
 
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Apart from the guy one from the far right they are all black

Race has nothing to do with genetics.

Race is a social category. So all of them (bar the guy one from the far right) would be considered black because to anyone who they interact with, they will appear black.

And that's all that really matters

Employers, loan officers, police, teachers, and average everyday folks on the street would look at them, presume their blackness, and treat them accordingly.

Which is to say, the presumptions of competence, law-abidingness, credit-worthiness and general intelligence would not be given to them, the way they are to white people, no matter what their genes may or may not say about them.

Blackness has nothing to do with genetics. Blackness is given by the society based on what people presume you to be. And that presumption has nothing to do with genotype — since observers cannot know their DNA just by looking at them — but rather, everything to do with phenotype, which is to say the way certain genes are expressed outwardly, as with skin pigmentation, and a handful of other characteristics, which are controlled by about six genes out of 30,000 in the overall human genome.
Sorry no, biologically speaking race IS all about genetics. There are about five basic racial catagories on the census. Those who are a mix are either mestizos or mullatos, however for those there is only a catagory called "other".
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