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My main problem is the misuse of parental power in cases of parent child incest. Even if the child in question is of legal age there is still the question of grooming them to accept a relationship beyond parent/child. I can see coercion being a huge problem..
If you can't see the difference in a parent using parental power to get their child to do what they want, and two non related adults coming together. I feel sorry for you.
Simply put, incest leads to significant genetic deficiencies in offspring. .
So would you also prohibit reproduction of individuals who have a high chance of producing inferior offspring? Should ugly fat people be prohibited from marrying? Or people with very low IQ?
If you can't see the difference in a parent using parental power to get their child to do what they want, and two non related adults coming together. I feel sorry for you.
We're talking adults, not children. Incest doesn't have to be with children any more than homosexuality does.
But if you can't see that adults of any sexual persuasion can and will influence their children to be like them, then I feel sorry for you.
I actually think there's nothing inherently wrong with incest between two consenting adults as long as no children come from it, because the genetics of incest can lead to various kinds of diseases. If they want children they should adopt or use a sperm donor.
So would you also prohibit reproduction of individuals who have a high chance of producing inferior offspring? Should ugly fat people be prohibited from marrying? Or people with very low IQ?
It's not just about being "deformed"--there are a ton of really painful diseases that can result that would normally have no chance of being expressed because they are from recessive genes. As someone who is blind, I have no problem with the idea of disability or "deformity" in and of itself, but I don't think it would be fair to risk causing a much higher level of suffering, such as a severely debilitating painful disease.
(to mattee) So, you have your definition. But you are no different than those who believe marriage should be between one man and one woman only. You just choose to define marriage to suit your opinion, but still put restrictions on it.
You can't support homosexual marriage if you oppose other forms of non traditional marriage. That's hypocritical.
I don't think so. Those who say marriage (we're actually talking about sexual relations in general) should be between a man and woman only can't seem to give a reason pertaining to the well-being of individuals or society. On the subject of bestiality, "unconsentual" is a pretty strong point, as compared to "untraditional".
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Originally Posted by Roadking2003
We're talking adults, not children. Incest doesn't have to be with children any more than homosexuality does.
jjrose specified which cases they were referring to from the very beginning...
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Originally Posted by jjrose
My main problem is the misuse of parental power in cases of parent child incest. Even if the child in question is of legal age there is still the question of grooming them to accept a relationship beyond parent/child. I can see coercion being a huge problem.
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Originally Posted by nimchimpsky
It's not just about being "deformed"--there are a ton of really painful diseases that can result that would normally have no chance of being expressed because they are from recessive genes.
I'd like to hear more about this! But I think Roadking makes a good point, or, at least according to one other person at Yahoo!, some nonrelated couples actually have a higher risk of producing offspring with mental retardation or deformities. As for these diseases, I'm not sure I've heard of them.
I actually think there's nothing inherently wrong with incest between two consenting adults as long as no children come from it, because the genetics of incest can lead to various kinds of diseases. If they want children they should adopt or use a sperm donor.
The best solution to marriage is to get government out of it. Marriage should be a religious event and defined by your religion. If I want to marry a fence post or a lizard, that should be OK with government.
I think you're the only one here trying to talk about marriage, and it isn't part of the subject at all.
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