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Old 06-01-2012, 08:40 AM
 
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But we are a nation of "consumers". That is what we do..buy stuff.
And the mantra has always been to "keep up with the Jones".
Now mix that with "Everyone's a winner" and you end up with anger, envy and a demand for someone to do something about it because you didn't come out a winner like they did and it's just not fair.

Especially when you worked harder and longer for lower pay at crappy jobs plus in the long run you paid more for less housing than they did because they were able to buy a home early and you had to pay inflated rising rent your whole life.
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Old 06-01-2012, 08:43 AM
 
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Can a Poor person afford a trip to Bali or perhaps Dubai my friend?

But hey, a poor person can afford a trip to Riverdale.
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Old 06-01-2012, 08:46 AM
 
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Liberals never cared about rising inequality. In fact, they embrace it and will show their support in 2012 by voting for Obama.

It is all about smoke and mirrors, and liberals love to play this sick little games.

What are they supposed to do, vote for Romney? I wonder if he will pick the junior upward redistributionist from Florida to run with him.
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Old 06-01-2012, 08:49 AM
 
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And that is what many Americans are doing as their buying power and their salaries shrink in comparison to price increases.

Poverty is the enemy of (economic and environmental) progress.
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Old 06-01-2012, 08:57 AM
 
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Poor Americans might have various inexpensive material goods, but they don't have wealth which is what matters in the long run.

Not having wealth means you have no wealth to leave your children and not even a paid-off home to give you the peace of mind that you will be able to house your family and won't become homeless.

For poor people, not owning a home represents the difference between being able to retire with a modest lifestyle and never being able to retire at all, because you're still paying (half your income on) rent.
Millions of Americans who are not wealthy own their own homes.

You act like you had no control over your decisions in life. And millions of Americans have lifted themselves out of poverty. I'm sorry that you can't. But, don't make it out like people have no chance for improving their lives. That's simply not true.
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Old 06-01-2012, 09:06 AM
 
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Millions of Americans who are not wealthy own their own homes.

You act like you had no control over your decisions in life. And millions of Americans have lifted themselves out of poverty. I'm sorry that you can't. But, don't make it out like people have no chance for improving their lives. That's simply not true.

There is only one poor person I know who has ever bought a home, and she was able to do it only because her grandmother sold it to her with nothing down and monthly payments lower than rent.

At my age, there is no way I'm ever going to get hired at a good job, and I certainly don't have the capital to start a business, so how am I going to get rich now?
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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There is only one poor person I know who has ever bought a home, and she was able to do it only because her grandmother sold it to her with nothing down and monthly payments lower than rent.

At my age, there is no way I'm ever going to get hired at a good job, and I certainly don't have the capital to start a business, so how am I going to get rich now?
Depends on your age, motivation, past life experiences, intelligence, education, and a multitude of factors not quantifiable in an online forum.

Tell me a few basic things about you and I'll try and help you get rich. Start with age. Approximate is fine. And general location in country.
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:24 AM
 
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Depends on your age, motivation, past life experiences, intelligence, education, and a multitude of factors not quantifiable in an online forum.

Tell me a few basic things about you and I'll try and help you get rich. Start with age. Approximate is fine. And general location in country.

Okay, I'm over 50 (bad/late start there, 3.9 GPA, 120 IQ, liberal arts degree with no marketable skills, no money to go back to school (at my age, would it help anyway?), Washington state.

I would have made a great accountant -one year undergrad with 4.0 - but nobody wants to hire an older career-changing entry level accountant.
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Old 01-23-2018, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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I realize this thread is five years old, but C-D flagged it as an active thread of interest. Not active, but interesting.

And *WOW!* is the OP's contention a steaming pile of BS. Because everyone can consume, we're all equal. That literally took my breath away with the low-earth-orbit level of disconnect from economic reality.
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Old 01-23-2018, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Oh yes, this is great. As long as everyone has a fridge and a TV, it's ok to pay CEO's obscene amounts of money while paying workers less, and cutting back on their benefits, and cutting back on the number of employees. But how are people going to get to work if they can't afford a car and gas and car insurance? Public transportation needs to be improved but to do that, taxes need to be increased on you-know-who. This says nothing of the people who work for businesses like Wal-Mart that provide inadequate health insurance, and cannot guarantee employees a 40-hr. workweek. Nor does it say anything about the families who have been made homeless due to job layoffs and the mortgage implosion.

Who said poor people have computers? The poor go to the public library to use computers.

Keep digging up justifications for abandoning your responsibility to the nation. Nice hobby. You're providing us with a real-life experience of what it must have been like during FDR's presidency, when accusations of "socialism" were daily fare.
Well they obviously aren't time poor then -library hours don't suit most working folk.
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