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May, might, could, possibly... Not exactly scientific words of wisdom.
You do not understand science and especially research. Scientists have to replicate their findings over and over to say something "is". It's not like CD where people with no science background whatsoever can pontificate away at the computer.
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Yes, they do and most of the time they shouldn't be compared because the people comparing them are trying to compare a fruit stand to a dump truck.
I think I'd like you to expound on that a little. A population of 125 million need the same number of doctors per 1000 people as one of 1 million. Same number of hospital beds per person. Same number of nurses, equally long schooling for professionals.
That is why, in public health, countries get compared despite large population differences. No-ones ever pointed out strong reasons why the population differences are relevant. Now you're saying you have reasons? I'd like to hear them.
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Sure it is. Are you trying to say the population of Japan is the same as the population of the U.S.? That would be absurd. Does Japan have a fast food restaurant on every corner and all of its main courses include 16 ounces of protein filled meat? Does Japan start its children out as binge drinkers in middle school?
In point of fact, the population of the UK is fairly similar to the US in terms of obesity and unhealthy eating habits. The difference in health care costs are massive though.
LOL. This is a common story and only made the papers because he was the PM.
Canada News: 'Danny Millions' Williams heads south for heart surgery - thestar.com What a absolute load of rubbish. Williams is a extremely wealthy man and could have gone anywhere in Canada that does do every proceedure with no problems. These proceedures are carried out in Canada. Williams by being wealthy can go to any Country and have medical proceedures but normal everyday low paid Americans cannot, otherwise they would. I know a number of people here in the USA who go abroad for medical treatment and the number is growing every day. One of my Repubican friends goes to Costa Rica for his dental treatment. This is now not uncommon here to go abroad for health issues. Many here who are chronically sick get their drugs from Canada because it is cheaper to have their medicines sent from Canada than buy it here. Williams being wealthy has choices and it is his right to take them, just as it is the right of people with money here to go abroad and get treatment... and many now do.
Utterly false propaganda. I know people who self-insure, willingly. They can afford coverage and choose not to. Those who truly cannot afford coverage are caught by medicare, medicaid, and in the case of pre-existing conditions (my mother has one and is not eligible for either) there are state insurance pools. Yes, if you can afford it you have to pay the premium. Just like you have to pay for gasoline, to use the car analogy everyone seems so fond of. False propoganda is wrong. Many here who are insured by their company etc can only afford the very basic health cover as their salary is so low, they cannot afford the decent health cover. They can be classed as insured but they cannot take advantage of much of the health system as their co-pays etc are too much for them to afford and so do NOT seek medical help even though they are technically insured as they cannot afford the out of pocket expenses. Medicare and aid in itself is floundering because it is a band aid trying to fix a huge hemorrhage and is destined to keep failing. Many earn too much to get Govt plans but not enough to afford private health. Premiums for Medicare itself is expensive for these people caught in between earning too much for medicare and not enough for private health... eg... Pat A..... around $450 per month and part B around $99 per month .. not cheap. Saying that a high percentage here have health insurance ignores the fact that a large number of the ones insured cannot afford treatments even with their basic insurance cover.
You pay for healthcare everywhere. You can do it through crippling taxes and a state run system which by its very nature is not patient-centered, or you can do it out of your pocket and have a more patient centered system. There is no such thing as 'free' healthcare. The question in, do you trust the state to make your healthcare decisions for you? If so, good luck and take a second look at Canada.
You realy do NOT have a clue about Govt. Funded health care.
The taxes are far from crippling and absolutely NO ONE in the UK has been made bankrupt by their health care tax even though the tax covers Old age pension from retirement age (65) till death and it covers unemployment payments and sickness payments and mortgage or rent payments for the unemployed, sick or low paid. The tax also covers clinics, contraception and a huge reduction in medicine costs.... around $10 for a prescription with up to 3/4 drugs each prescription, no matter how much they cost.
A UHC is far far more patient centered than the private health system here with the care coming before the cost. Far more choice of Doctors and Hospitals with a UHC. The Govt. does NOT make your health care decissions... that is a absolute lie.... The medical professionals decide your treatments... the Govt. funds it and very rarely get involved in Doctors treatments. The only time the Govt. gets involved is if a cheaper drug can be used that does the same as a far more expensive one... then the Govt. pays for the cheaper drug... pure common sense. The Country has Local area healt authorities to govern the health needs of that area and the decissions are made by the Health professionals. NO ONE in the UK is without excellant health care............ NO ONE and NO ONE has been made bankrupt or subject to funancial stress.................... FACT.... unlike here in the USA where health is just a big money earning concern by the insurance companies and Doctors.......... Your health here comes way down the list of priorities to the medical profession and PROFIT is the top concern............
It would be a boon to the economy. People would no longer be tethered to jobs they hate just to keep their insurance. Instead they'd have the peace of mind necessary to enable them to start businesses, further their education, or move into more suitable careers
So how is it paid for if everybody is enjoying themselves and such?
I've heard good and bad things about Canada's healthcare system, so I'm not sure that using it as a template for a US UHC system would be feasible without tons of research.
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