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Old 06-01-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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When did you start counting?
The day after "stimulus" was passed.
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Old 06-01-2012, 09:57 AM
 
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Well, he IS a master flip-flopper but honest?

THAT's open to debate.
Would you like me to post all of obama's flip-flops and outright lies?

He is the biggest hypocrite/liar ever to hold the presidency.
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:01 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Would you like me to post all of obama's flip-flops and outright lies?
I don't really give a rat's ass what you do, it WILL NOT change Romney's record of masterful flip-flopping.

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He is the biggest hypocrite/liar ever to hold the presidency.
You are just as entitled to your O-P-I-N-I-O-N as people are to ignore it.
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:02 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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obama "stimulates" the economy with $800 BILLION DOLLARS.

Not one net job created.

obama suggests tax credits for new hires....very few takers.

obama suggests tax credits for businesses to hire veterans......very few takers.

WHY?

If there is NO demand for a product, a business doesn't need any more employees. Employees cost money.

It's as simple as this....get rid of the corporate tax rate, get the EPA under control.

Make America business friendly and jobs will follow.

You'll see proof once Mitt Romney is POTUS!

Everyone living off a credit card and paying the minimum... File bankruptcy and do it all over again.
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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obama has been in office for 3 1/2 years...
Let us use that argument. Republican idea of "full employment" happened during Bush years. The unemployment rate was quite low. Republican idea of disaster is what has happened under Obama. The unemployment rate is because of him. Okay, now let us compare size of private sector payroll over first 29 months of the two Presidencies:
President George W Bush
Jan 2001: 111.63 million
May 2003: 108.27 million
Growth: -3.36 million jobs

President Barack H Obama
Jan 2009: 110.98 million
May 2012: 111.04 million
Growth: +0.06 million

It is a guarantee that it will take a republican to claim that job growth was glorious during Bush years, and not a single job has been added under Obama. But then, these would be the "conservatives"...

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Old 06-01-2012, 10:04 AM
 
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I don't really give a rat's ass what you do, it WILL NOT change Romney's record of masterful flip-flopping.



You are just as entitled to your O-P-I-N-I-O-N as people are to ignore it.
8.2% unemployment, AFTER $800 BILLION DOLLARS borrowed!

Obama's Stimulus: A Documented Failure | CNSNews.com

You can't feel good about that.
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:07 AM
 
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Let us use that argument. Republican idea of "full employment" happened during Bush years. The unemployment rate was quite low. Republican idea of disaster is what has happened under Obama. The unemployment rate is because of him. Okay, now let us compare size of private sector payroll over first 29 months of the two Presidencies:
President George W Bush
Jan 2001: 111.63 million
May 2003: 108.27 million
Growth: -3.36 million jobs

President Barack H Obama
Jan 2009: 110.98 million
May 2012: 111.04 million
Growth: +0.06 million

It is a guarantee that it will take a republican to claim that job growth was glorious during Bush years, and not a single job has been added under Obama. But then, these would be the "conservatives"...
obama will be a one termer.....joining the other worst president in my lifetime.

Community organizing, socialists do not know how to run an economy.

Obama's Stimulus: A Documented Failure | CNSNews.com
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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The day after "stimulus" was passed.
ARRA was passed in Feb 2009. And I'm ignoring the stupidity in believing that signing a law turns things around the next day.
Private Sector Payroll, Feb 2009: 110.26 million
Private Sector Payroll, May 2012: 111.04 million
Net growth in Private Sector Payroll: +780K jobs
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obama will be a one termer.....joining the other worst president in my lifetime.

Community organizing, socialists do not know how to run an economy.

Obama's Stimulus: A Documented Failure | CNSNews.com
And back to parroting you go. At least you're in a celebratory mode seeing dismal growth in economy. It gets your hope up for making Obama a one-term President... nothing else matters.
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:11 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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8.2% unemployment, AFTER $800 BILLION DOLLARS borrowed!

Obama's Stimulus: A Documented Failure | CNSNews.com

You can't feel good about that.

Depends how you add and who you forget.

Some say 14.6% and some say 24%

Counting people that are limited to the amount of time they can be on the counting roles, does nothing but deceive the ignorant.
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:13 AM
 
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obama "stimulates" the economy with $800 BILLION DOLLARS.

Not one net job created.

obama suggests tax credits for new hires....very few takers.

obama suggests tax credits for businesses to hire veterans......very few takers.

WHY?

If there is NO demand for a product, a business doesn't need any more employees. Employees cost money.

It's as simple as this....get rid of the corporate tax rate, get the EPA under control.

Make America business friendly and jobs will follow.

You'll see proof once Mitt Romney is POTUS!
Uhhh yeah, that is because Obama is basically a neocon. Haven't you noticed its all supply side? An actual progressive lefty would have directly stoked demand be giving people credit to buy product(there are more complicated issue than WWII era, but I digress). The simplicity of the progressives may lack efficiency and sophistication, but the so called right we have today is lost in the forest looking for a better route. They are too stupid to find it. Unfortunately given the simple minded electorate, I have more hope that a real progressive is the best we can get, who will do the right thing in the worst possible way. Obama's policy is nowhere near that. He is basically just a neocon.

Your idea of getting rid of the corporate tax rate is exactly the same policy as Obama. Why on earth do you see a diffrence between tax credits and lower tax rate? You state there is no demand for product, yet EPA restrictions and tax rates do not address market demand you state as the problem. Its almost as if you are insane.

The bad: Liberals don't know anything about economics
The worse: Conservatives think they know about economics
The worst: Is yet to come.
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