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And it should certainly raise eyebrows on every American, that the Warren Commission was sealed for 45 years.
75 years. The files are scheduled for declassification review in the year 2039.
That means that in 2039, someone will review the files to see if any information related to the assassination can be declassified, such as Oswald's military files and his CIA files.
We know from the 1976 HSCA hearings that Oswald spoke Russian because he was trained at the military language institute at Presidio of Monterey, which makes the Warren Commission Report a lie.
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During his presidency, I don't think even today a lot of American's realize how very close were were to nukeing Cuba and visa versa.
To quote the Soviet Military Command, "We are not ready to fight, and we do not intend to fight over Cuba."
One of the highest-ranking and well-placed spies in the history of US espionage was sitting at that meeting between the Soviet Military Command and Khrushchev, and Kennedy was made aware of the ideas discussed at that meeting within 36 hours.
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Kennedy did NOT want to get involved in Vietnam....
If your going to partially quote selective material from memos, then quote all of them, especially the ones after the memo you are partially paraphrasing in a very selective manner.
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and he was very adamit about the fact that it was time the African American Civil Rights movement was successful and was working closely with Martin Luther King.
No, he wasn't. Go back and the Congressional Record (a quarterly publication available at NARA). It was the Republican minority introducing civil rights legislation and the Democrat majority that was squashing it in committee.
For someone "working closely" with King, you'd have thought that Kennedy would at least have the courtesy to telephone King at least once, or invite him to the White House, or meet him. Kennedy did none of those things. I doubt that Kennedy would even recognize King if he passed him walking down the street.
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Then his brother Bobby was assassinated...so, JFK, Martin Luther King, and then his brother? Do you really think that was coincidence?
Actually, no. There is some evidence of a conspiracy to assassinate King, but it isn't as conclusive as the JFK assassination. Jones didn't even finish the 6th grade and couldn't even write his own name, yet somehow he ends up with a US passport and jumps a plane to the UK after the assassination.
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There is no way his FBI agents would have backed down from his car as they did, there is no way he would have been riding in a convertable
Perhaps because FBI agents were never there. That would explain a lot.
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JFK, was trying to do what he believed was right for the people of this country
Which was what exactly? Banging Ukrainian and Russian girls? Kennedy was a self-serving prick.
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Does it really matter? It has been a whole lot of years and there is much water under the bridge. The whole Kennedy clan was involved in crime and graft and other interesting tidbits. There were undoubtedly many, many people who wanted to see JFK dead, along with Robert. Ted was lucky he only drowned a hooker, or else he'd be dead, too. It's sad to me that JFK has been martyred because of the assassination because he just was not that great of a human being, but I did not care when I was 15 (when it happened) and I do not care now. RIP
Does it really matter? It has been a whole lot of years and there is much water under the bridge. The whole Kennedy clan was involved in crime and graft and other interesting tidbits. There were undoubtedly many, many people who wanted to see JFK dead, along with Robert. Ted was lucky he only drowned a hooker, or else he'd be dead, too. It's sad to me that JFK has been martyred because of the assassination because he just was not that great of a human being, but I did not care when I was 15 (when it happened) and I do not care now. RIP
I'm sure your correct in most of this statement, but yes indeed, it does matter, regardless of who JFK was...really...it matters b/c the American's have a right to know who killed him....
I care, and care alot, b/c who ever did kill him...had a lot of power, to call down the FBI/special agents, and proceed with an assisination as such. and Yes, he had a lot of enemies, and yes, he was martyred b/c of the assassination, but ohhhh yes indeed, I would very much like to know who was actually responsible...the true story.
75 years. The files are scheduled for declassification review in the year 2039.
That means that in 2039, someone will review the files to see if any information related to the assassination can be declassified, such as Oswald's military files and his CIA files.
We know from the 1976 HSCA hearings that Oswald spoke Russian because he was trained at the military language institute at Presidio of Monterey, which makes the Warren Commission Report a lie.
To quote the Soviet Military Command, "We are not ready to fight, and we do not intend to fight over Cuba."
One of the highest-ranking and well-placed spies in the history of US espionage was sitting at that meeting between the Soviet Military Command and Khrushchev, and Kennedy was made aware of the ideas discussed at that meeting within 36 hours.
If your going to partially quote selective material from memos, then quote all of them, especially the ones after the memo you are partially paraphrasing in a very selective manner.
I am partically paraphrasing b/c it is all I remember at this time...
No, he wasn't. Go back and the Congressional Record (a quarterly publication available at NARA). It was the Republican minority introducing civil rights legislation and the Democrat majority that was squashing it in committee.
For someone "working closely" with King, you'd have thought that Kennedy would at least have the courtesy to telephone King at least once, or invite him to the White House, or meet him. Kennedy did none of those things. I doubt that Kennedy would even recognize King if he passed him walking down the street.
Actually, no. There is some evidence of a conspiracy to assassinate King, but it isn't as conclusive as the JFK assassination. Jones didn't even finish the 6th grade and couldn't even write his own name, yet somehow he ends up with a US passport and jumps a plane to the UK after the assassination.
Perhaps because FBI agents were never there. That would explain a lot.
FBI agents/Special Agents...whatever?
Which was what exactly? Banging Ukrainian and Russian girls? Kennedy was a self-serving prick.
Your opinions and ideas? Regardless of what you think of the man, he was brutally murdered...so, prick or not...all American's deserve to know the truth, and the ones responsible should be brought up on charges of murder/conspiracy, etc.
I'm a long-time rifle shooter, and at the time of the Kennedy assasination I was on a military long-range shooting team (typically > 1000 yards using typical military rifles similar to the milsurp Italian 6.5mm Carcano that Oswald purportedly used). We tried, with re-armored (i.e: "blueprinted and accurized" ) bolt action milsurp rifles, to match his shooting. Couldn't be done unless one assumed a significant amount of luck. That particular rifle, well -worn, and with surplus ammo, would have been able, at best, to group into about 14 inches at the stated range. He'd have to have had a rifle capable of significantly better accuracy (4" or so), and that doesn't even incorporate the heart-pounding effects of stress on one's ability to calmly shoot at a moving, angling away, human target. It never really washed with us boys down on the shooting line. And that also doesn't incorporate the other aspects you guys have brought up that we knew nothing of (angle of bullet entry, etc.). Shows how the gov-mint and media can "handle" us, eh? Just "shush" and eat your gruel!
I'm a long-time rifle shooter, and at the time of the Kennedy assasination I was on a military long-range shooting team (typically > 1000 yards using typical military rifles similar to the milsurp Italian 6.5mm Carcano that Oswald purportedly used). We tried, with re-armored (i.e: "blueprinted and accurized" ) bolt action milsurp rifles, to match his shooting. Couldn't be done unless one assumed a significant amount of luck. That particular rifle, well -worn, and with surplus ammo, would have been able, at best, to group into about 14 inches at the stated range. He'd have to have had a rifle capable of significantly better accuracy (4" or so), and that doesn't even incorporate the heart-pounding effects of stress on one's ability to calmly shoot at a moving, angling away, human target. It never really washed with us boys down on the shooting line. And that also doesn't incorporate the other aspects you guys have brought up that we knew nothing of (angle of bullet entry, etc.). Shows how the gov-mint and media can "handle" us, eh? Just "shush" and eat your gruel!
No one has ever duplicated Oswald's alleged feat.
By the FBI's own admission, the rifle was never zeroed, the scope was never zeroed to the rifle, and Oswald never fired the rifle before that day (all ammunition was accounted).
Based on the NARA tape recording, the time between the 2nd and 3rd shots was 1.66 seconds. According the HSCA Report
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FBI marksmen who test fired the rifle for the Commission employed the telescopic sight on the rifle, and the minimum firing time between shots was approximately 2.24 and 2.3 seconds.(31)
Lee was a Marksman. That means he barely qualified on the range. The truth about the Bay of Pigs is what carries the answer. Twelve business men from around the Gulf Coast ( including my father, and associates from New Orleans and Dallas that were in "The Family") bought the Battle ship and aircraft carriers that were manned by americans and expatriot cubans at the Bay. JFK sent the us navy with jets that shut down the sea support, pissing the CIA (who organized the plan) and business men off. My dad owned property on outskirts of Havana where he was going to open a retail mall surrounded by Casinos; pre-Castro. Dad knew who.
Oswald. The evidence is overwhelming. Before killing JFK, he attempted to assassinate retired Major General Edwin Walker.
Instead of watching a stupid movie by a historical revisionist who uses "artistic license" to distort reality (O. Stone), read the book Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK.
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