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Old 06-04-2012, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Murika
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What the hell are you going to do about natural heating and cooling of the Earth? It has been going on since the beginning. Hint. You can't do a damn thing about it.
No, you can't.

However, let's say you are stuck in an outside elevator in mid-summer. As time goes by, the temperature inside the elevator will invariably rise. There is nothing you can do about it. You can't open a window and there is no A/C or vent.

Now, let's say that instead of it being just you, there are 20 other people stuck inside. Can you see that the temperature would rise MUCH faster to uncomfortable levels? Let's also say that some of these people decided - for whatever reason - that it would be a great idea to light a fire. Now how hot and miserable will you be? And how much faster will it be so darn hot that you can't stand it?

You see - that's the point: You are unable to do anything about heating and cooling cycles of the earth. But do you really have to be reckless and speed up the problem beyond anything that is reasonably necessitated by your existence?
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Old 06-04-2012, 01:39 PM
 
Location: central Oregon
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Sure, but there is no metaphoric asteroid....the earth is simply going about business as usual.

It froze over and thawed thousands of times before we had fossil fuels.
I wrote this when I was was a teenager. I love watching shows about Planet Earth. The life cycles of this place truly fascinate me.
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Cycles

I gazed upon the land and witnessed birth
Of a tiny seed which grew upon the Earth
It grew into a flower, then it died
And how the mighty heavens cried
Then I gazed upon the land and witnessed birth
Of a tiny seed which grew upon the Earth

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Our planet cycles through everything. What once was will be again.
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Old 06-04-2012, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Yep, you know more than all of the scientists in the entire world.
Good for you!

What's your science background again?
I thought that questioning authority was a GOOD thing.

What was your position on the Iraq war, before it started? Did you think that you knew more than all of the intelligence agencies in the entire world? Or did you just happily accept what they said as truth, without question?

You can't have it both ways.
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Old 06-04-2012, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Warming Arctic Tundra Producing Pop-Up Forests
If a forest is "popping up," then there had to have been one there before. Seeds don't materialize out of thin air.

So if there was a forest there before, and then it became too cold, and now it's warming enough for a forest to grow there again, then I'd have to say that the point has been proven (again) that the earth is simply experiencing cyclical climate change. The fact that the forest is "popping up" proves absolutely nothing about man having anything to do with it.
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Old 06-04-2012, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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If a forest is "popping up," then there had to have been one there before. Seeds don't materialize out of thin air.

So if there was a forest there before, and then it became too cold, and now it's warming enough for a forest to grow there again, then I'd have to say that the point has been proven (again) that the earth is simply experiencing cyclical climate change. The fact that the forest is "popping up" proves absolutely nothing about man having anything to do with it.
But, but, where did the Garden of Eden come from?
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Old 06-04-2012, 01:54 PM
 
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But, but, where did the Garden of Eden come from?

A fiction writers immagination.
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Old 06-04-2012, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Murika
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Seeds don't materialize out of thin air.
Wellllllll. In a sense, they do: Birds drop seeds. The wind carries seeds. And so forth...
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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But, but, where did the Garden of Eden come from?
I have no idea. I suggest you ask someone who follows a religion that espouses its existence.
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Wellllllll. In a sense, they do: Birds drop seeds. The wind carries seeds. And so forth...
Enough undamaged, viable seeds to spring up an entire forest?

Nah. I'm going to stick with the idea that the seeds were already there. It makes much more sense. These plants are built for cold weather, and the seeds can lay dormant for a very long time and retain viability.
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I thought that questioning authority was a GOOD thing.

What was your position on the Iraq war, before it started? Did you think that you knew more than all of the intelligence agencies in the entire world? Or did you just happily accept what they said as truth, without question?

You can't have it both ways.
There is a huge difference between science and authority, or didn't you know that?
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