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Old 06-05-2012, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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you either have to go through Vegas I-15 or that railroad line that parrallels I-15 or US 95 from Reno via Tonopah. The route through Vegas parallels the Strip and goes near McCarren Apt. It is no surprise politicains of any stripe are agitated over this.
Actually, you don't have to go past the strip.

You can bring it in through Death Valley from California on 373, or if you absolutely had to enter NV on 15 from the south, you could go 161 to local roads to 160, or you could just take 15 to 160 (Blue Diamond Rd) before you even get as far north as the airport. Coming from the north, you would take 6 through Ely to 95 south. From the east, you could come in on 319 to 93 to 375 ("Extraterrestrial Highway" ) to 6 to 95.

It wouldn't be hard to bypass the Las Vegas and/or Reno tourist zones. Not at all.
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:11 PM
 
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If you're an expert, sound like one instead of someone a part of an interest group. Making statement and not backing them up is not the way about it. And instead of wasting time on repeating a babble, take your time and back up your claims with something more valuable than political bickering and excuses.

If you don't have answer to two basic questions, do not waste my time. And I repeat for convenience:
1- Do majority of Nevadans support the project?
2- Do they matter?
Waste YOUR time??? YOU'RE the one wasting people's time!! Do your own research.

I've already answered both of these questions:
1 - Polling results are all over the place. However, with today's economic realities in Las Vegas, opinions are shifting --> Read: Not all Nevadans oppose Yucca Mountain - Opinion - ReviewJournal.com
2 - In my opinion, National Defense and Security comes first and the opinion of Nevadans DOES NOT MATTER. The YMR is the law of the land and the current admisitration is in direct violation of the law.
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:26 PM
 
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Actually, you don't have to go past the strip.

You can bring it in through Death Valley from California on 373, or if you absolutely had to enter NV on 15 from the south, you could go 161 to local roads to 160, or you could just take 15 to 160 (Blue Diamond Rd) before you even get as far north as the airport. Coming from the north, you would take 6 through Ely to 95 south. From the east, you could come in on 319 to 93 to 375 ("Extraterrestrial Highway" ) to 6 to 95.

It wouldn't be hard to bypass the Las Vegas and/or Reno tourist zones. Not at all.
Folks, the Yucca Mountain Project License Application proposes a rail route called the "Caliente Corridor" that does not come close or through Las Vegas or any other population center. It wraps around to the north of the Yucca Mountain site (see drawings on Wikipedia).

The politicians have always touted the stunt of "over my dead body... I'll lay down on the 15 to block the shipments" or on the UP tracks next to the strip when in fact these routes were NEVER going to be used. What farse these clowns are...
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:30 PM
 
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Actually, you don't have to go past the strip.

You can bring it in through Death Valley from California on 373, or if you absolutely had to enter NV on 15 from the south, you could go 161 to local roads to 160, or you could just take 15 to 160 (Blue Diamond Rd) before you even get as far north as the airport. Coming from the north, you would take 6 through Ely to 95 south. From the east, you could come in on 319 to 93 to 375 ("Extraterrestrial Highway" ) to 6 to 95.

It wouldn't be hard to bypass the Las Vegas and/or Reno tourist zones. Not at all.

Not to mention that the nuclear shipment are much more robust and safer (see the U-Tube videos of the nuclear transport cask tests done at Sandia National Lab) than the rail cars full of chlorine gas and other toxic chemical that pass by the strip a few times a day... If these tank cars were to rupture, 10s of thousands of people would be killed.
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:31 PM
 
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No, you should re-read the post consume and what you've read. It has nothing to do with "volunteering" to take the nuclear waste. It has everything to do with suitable storage facilities. Yucca Mountain has been determined to be the best viable option. Volunteering is not relevant to the topic at hand.
Boy the balderdash gets deep here...

Yucca Mountain, a ridge of volcanic rock about 100 miles northwest of Las Vegas, has been the leading candidate site for a nuclear-waste repository since the 1980s. But it was not selected by any scientific process of elimination; it was selected from a list in 1987 by Congress, which declared it dry and remote enough.

Scientific concerns have since emerged, including the realization that water flows through Yucca Mountain a lot faster than initially believed. That raises the prospect that the nuclear waste would leach over time, polluting the water table. The scientific merit of the site has not been established by independent judges.

Yucca Mountain News - Breaking Local Yucca Mountain News - The New York Times

This bill was known as the Screw Nevada Act.

It is undoubtedly true there are much better sites. Just none that are as ssuityalbe for political reasons.

It is now generally agreed that any nuclear depository site should require the consent of the location.

Jobs from the site are good only during the exploratory phase. Then it will be a few hundred in Nye County.
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:39 PM
 
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Waste YOUR time??? YOU'RE the one wasting people's time!! Do your own research.

I've already answered both of these questions:
1 - Polling results are all over the place. However, with today's economic realities in Las Vegas, opinions are shifting --> Read: Not all Nevadans oppose Yucca Mountain - Opinion - ReviewJournal.com
2 - In my opinion, National Defense and Security comes first and the opinion of Nevadans DOES NOT MATTER. The YMR is the law of the land and the current admisitration is in direct violation of the law.
That was a link to a blog that said there was a poll but produced no proof.

If you search for the alleged poll it is only spoken about in other blogs or any link to said poll is missing or gone.

You look back over previous polls and the ones saying that people are against Yucca Mountain are easier to find. It's either a case of the RGJ printing BS and covering it up or someone else having them hide it so no one knows the truth.
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:40 PM
 
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Boy the balderdash gets deep here...

Yucca Mountain, a ridge of volcanic rock about 100 miles northwest of Las Vegas, has been the leading candidate site for a nuclear-waste repository since the 1980s. But it was not selected by any scientific process of elimination; it was selected from a list in 1987 by Congress, which declared it dry and remote enough.

Scientific concerns have since emerged, including the realization that water flows through Yucca Mountain a lot faster than initially believed. That raises the prospect that the nuclear waste would leach over time, polluting the water table. The scientific merit of the site has not been established by independent judges.

Yucca Mountain News - Breaking Local Yucca Mountain News - The New York Times

This bill was known as the Screw Nevada Act.

It is undoubtedly true there are much better sites. Just none that are as ssuityalbe for political reasons.

It is now generally agreed that any nuclear depository site should require the consent of the location.

Jobs from the site are good only during the exploratory phase. Then it will be a few hundred in Nye County.
Balderdash? That's what i'd call your one-sided perspective. Yucca Mountain is a political issue. It would have been used decades ago had there not been liberal resistance. During the downtime, EnviroNazi's have had enough time to forumlate the "why it shouldn't be used" argument, and that's precisely what you've fallen for hook, line, and sinker. Don't be so gullible.
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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There are substantial geologic problems with the site.


Can you elaborate on that, and provide verifiable sources to back your statement up?
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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It's not just liberals, it's everyone that lives in Las Vegas
Wrong.
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Waste YOUR time??? YOU'RE the one wasting people's time!! Do your own research.
I research MY statement, not someone else's who goes about mindless babbling.

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I've already answered both of these questions:
1 - Polling results are all over the place. However, with today's economic realities in Las Vegas, opinions are shifting --> Read: Not all Nevadans oppose Yucca Mountain - Opinion - ReviewJournal.com
2 - In my opinion, National Defense and Security comes first and the opinion of Nevadans DOES NOT MATTER. The YMR is the law of the land and the current admisitration is in direct violation of the law.
1- And if THAT is the best poll results you can post... that believes Nevadans should be polled again, well...

2- But then, polls and what Nevadans think don't matter. It ain't about states' rights anymore, is it? And certainly not when it makes for massive inconvenience. True to "conservative" convictions.
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