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Old 06-04-2012, 02:01 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Just came across this in the news and thought it would be interesting to learn how a creationist would interpret this data set. As the thread title says, please provide a better hypothesis for what happened.

Giant Insects Shrunk As Birds Entered Prehistoric Skies - Yahoo! News

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Millions of years ago, oversized insects like griffinflies boasting wingspans comparable to today's hawks scuttled across (and fluttered above) the planet. But why these jumbo jets of the insect world shrunk to modern size has remained a mystery, until now.

Turns out, as dinosaurs evolved flight and eventually took to the skies as birds, they beat down the huge insects already living there, effectively putting a cap on insect size through predation and competition in the prehistoric skies, as birds developed into sophisticated flying machines.

"The change in insect size is gradual," study researcher Matthew Clapham, of the University of California, at Santa Cruz, told LiveScience. "This gradual change fits quite nicely with the gradual evolution in birds at the time."
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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Just came across this in the news and thought it would be interesting to learn how a creationist would interpret this data set. As the thread title says, please provide a better hypothesis for what happened.

Giant Insects Shrunk As Birds Entered Prehistoric Skies - Yahoo! News
They had to have been shrunken to get them all on the Ark.


wait for it...wait for it....
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:05 PM
 
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Why can't creationism and science co-exist?
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:13 PM
 
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Why can't creationism and science co-exist?
Certain creationisms can and certain creationisms can't co-exist with the current understanding of many sciences.
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:14 PM
 
Location: NJ
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we were made from clay or algae...your choice.

both seem compatible...we evolved to a point and then bestowed with a soul

not enough facts to support big bang theory. probably more believe in creationism than evolution. Evolution has taken place but ther eis enough evidence to throw doubt on humans evolving from algae.

a puzzlement that schools refuse to teach both as most religions teach creationism and most people belong to a religious organization. So just culturally it should be compared. If a theory is so solid it would easily stand up to scrutiny, right? Science must be challenged continuosly in order to exist. So why not challenge it...either in history, science or social studies classes.
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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we were made from clay or algae...your choice.

both seem compatible...we evolved to a point and then bestowed with a soul

not enough facts to support big bang theory. probably more believe in creationism than evolution. Evolution has taken place but ther eis enough evidence to throw doubt on humans evolving from algae.

a puzzlement that schools refuse to teach both as most religions teach creationism and most people belong to a religious organization. So just culturally it should be compared. If a theory is so solid it would easily stand up to scrutiny, right? Science must be challenged continuosly in order to exist. So why not challenge it...either in history, science or social studies classes.
What's to challenge it? No other Theory has been developed. In what class would you want it to be taught?

Wait for it....wait for it...
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:20 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Why can't creationism and science co-exist?
It can if you can offer some scientific evidence in support of it.
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Why can't creationism and science co-exist?
For the same reason that any other myth has nothing to do with science.
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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we were made from clay or algae...your choice.

both seem compatible...we evolved to a point and then bestowed with a soul

not enough facts to support big bang theory. probably more believe in creationism than evolution. Evolution has taken place but ther eis enough evidence to throw doubt on humans evolving from algae.

a puzzlement that schools refuse to teach both as most religions teach creationism and most people belong to a religious organization. So just culturally it should be compared. If a theory is so solid it would easily stand up to scrutiny, right? Science must be challenged continuosly in order to exist. So why not challenge it...either in history, science or social studies classes.
Algae? What science says that?
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:24 PM
 
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Good grief how many times does it need to be stated that creationism, and/or abiogenesis, and evolution are not interchangeable terms. Creationists make one HUGE mistake whenever they bring evolution into the argument.
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