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Old 06-05-2012, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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That's not right.

The 13.6% is 2,484,000 black unemployed people looking for work within the 18,290,000 black work force. And the 7.4% is the 9,222,000 white unemployed people looking for work within the 123,989,000 white labor force.

The 11.5 million blacks and 69.5 million whites are outside of the labor force and are considered as unemployed not looking for work (even though may of them need work). They are not counted in the 13.6% and 7.4%.


Ah ok. So there are 2.4 million black people looking for work and 9.2 million white people looking for work. What's more important the color of the pigs at the trough or the overall number that need to get fed?
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:28 PM
 
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Ah ok. So there are 2.4 million black people looking for work and 9.2 million white people looking for work. What's more important the color of the pigs at the trough or the overall number that need to get fed?
Overall, of course.
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Why should the GOP even care? Politically they've already shown their cards when Mitt Romney went to West Philly to discuss their issues and they quickly bum rushed him out of there. Either way, on just about any issue that you can think of, black folks are usually their own worst enemy anyway.

What the GOP needs to focus on is securing the Latino vote which is larger, more diverse and much more significant in this upcoming election.
Yup, Blacks have made themselve irrelavent politically except for rare scenario when turnout makes the difference.

I posted a thread about Romney's foray into West Philly. I think he was playing more to the Phlly suburbs than trying to get Black votes. He has to know it's a hopeless endeavor.
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:39 PM
 
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When the next Republican president is elected and a Democrat posts a thread just like this one, he'll get called racist. Democrats nor Republicans have any obligation to make sure that the unemployment rate goes down, specifically for black people. No president has done anything to about this and if you think that nothing that happend during the previous administrations had anything to do with this, you are delusional.

I really am sick of these lame attempts to bully blacks into voting Republican by insulting our intelligence. Why is it that people assume that the majority of southern whites who vote Republican in some states (I'm in one and and based on some of the converstations I have had there are a whole lot of uninformed voters) are informed voters, but black people aren't? Wait let me answer my own question, because being an ignorant, uninformed Republican is okay and the GOP is now trying to get the ignorant uninformed Democrats on their team. The problem is that there are less ignorant uninformed voters among Democarats, and as much as some of you like to think blacks are incapable of making informed decisions and do not vote in our best interest, that couldn't be farther from the truth. Not to mention, with all the racism on the GOPs end it isn't going to happen.
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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You don't get it. I'm a Roosevelt Democrat...AKA, an Eisenhower Republican. That's my philosophy. Why should I vote AGAINST that just because some blacks aren't doing well? If blacks are doing poorly, then they've gotta find a way to do better. Voting for the Republican Party sure as hell ain't gonna fix anything despite what you may think. Besides, I'm doing quite well. What do I have to complain about?

Secondly, I don't vote for the Dems because I'm black. I vote for them because they're philosophically closer to what I believe in. What...am I supposed to change philosophies just because YOU don't like the one I have now? That's arrogance. I vote for the person that will benefit all of America, not just African Americans. If all of America benefits, then blacks will too.

Lastly, as is very indicative from the posts on C-D, your party simply doesn't like black people and I don't give a damn what you say to the contrary. The Republican party is and will remain a party that hovers somewhere between indifference and outright hostility (if not outright hatred) of black people. I'm black....and I'm not a masochist nor am I suicidal. I'm not voting for people that hold me in contempt. Sorry.
Your post is contradictory, on one hand you say you don't vote based on how Blacks are doing but then you say you won't vote GOP because they don't like Black people. If you don't care about how other Black people are doing why would you care if the GOP doesn't like Blacks?

I don't have a problem with Blacks folks voting for Dems. Frankly it makes perfect sense, Blacks tend to be socialist in ideology. What I have a problem with is not making the Dems work for that vote.

By automatically voting for the Dems the black community has essentially deleveraged their hard earned political capital.
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:48 PM
 
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Unemployment Increase Worse for Blacks

The inability of the Obama administration to find any way to alleviate Black unemployment points to a larger failure in American society and our public schools: African Americans will not prosper in the coming years until inner cities become less tightly regulated and highly taxed, public schools reorient to promote entrepreneurialism instead of pre-bureaucracy training and we develop better credit facilities for small business nationwide.

96% of black people vote for this - and I'm not just talking about Obama only, but the whole Democrat government structure.

Growth - You Can Believe In

Obama 2012
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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When the next Republican president is elected and a Democrat posts a thread just like this one, he'll get called racist. Democrats nor Republicans have any obligation to make sure that the unemployment rate goes down, specifically for black people. No president has done anything to about this and if you think that nothing that happend during the previous administrations had anything to do with this, you are delusional.

I really am sick of these lame attempts to bully blacks into voting Republican by insulting our intelligence. Why is it that people assume that the majority of southern whites who vote Republican in some states (I'm in one and and based on some of the converstations I have had there are a whole lot of uninformed voters) are informed voters, but black people aren't? Wait let me answer my own question, because being an ignorant, uninformed Republican is okay and the GOP is now trying to get the ignorant uninformed Democrats on their team. The problem is that there are less ignorant uninformed voters among Democarats, and as much as some of you like to think blacks are incapable of making informed decisions and do not vote in our best interest, that couldn't be farther from the truth. Not to mention, with all the racism on the GOPs end it isn't going to happen.
I agree somewhat but I think a President's policy in regards to say immigration has an impact on UE rate for Blacks. I mean studies have born that out. When we still had immigration raids the next day many Americans, including many Blacks lined up for those jobs.

I'm always baffled at why Black leaders don't press this issue more. I understand not wanting to rock the coalition but at what point do you represent the interests of the community you claim to represent?
Immigration raids yield jobs for legal workers - USATODAY.com
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"Whenever there's an immigration raid, you find white, black and legal immigrant labor lining up to do those jobs that Americans will supposedly not do," said Swain, who teaches law and political science.
Exactly who is filling the jobs has varied, depending on the populations surrounding the plants:

• Out West, one of the Swift plants raided by ICE, had a workforce that was about 90% Hispanic — both legal and illegal — before the raids. The lost workers were replaced mostly with white Americans and U.S.-born Hispanics, according to the CIS.
• In the South, a House of Raeford Farms plant in North Carolina that was more than 80% Hispanic before a federal investigation is now about 70% African-American, according to a report by TheCharlotte Observer.
• Throughout the Great Plains, a new wave of legal immigrants is filling the void, according to Jill Cashen, spokeswoman for the United Food and Commercial Workers union, which represents 1.3 million people who work in the food-processing industry. Plants are refilling positions with newly arrived immigrants from places such as Sudan, Somalia and Southeast Asia.
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:07 PM
 
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That's really funny in 1960 the poverty rate for Black Americans was over 40% and over 9 million Black Americans were living below the poverty level. Fifty years later the population of Black Americans has double to almost 40 million people but the number of Black Americans living below the poverty level is only about 10 million.

Also in 1960 only about 4% of Black Americans had a four year college degree or higher in 2010 about 19% have a four year college degree or higher. About 46% of Black Americans that are high school graduates attend college that is an all time high.

Also here are the U.S Census Bureau stats for Money Income Distribution By Families 1980 to 2008 in (Constant Dollars)

Table 695 Money Income of Families - Percent Distribution By Income Level in Constant (2008) Dollars

In 1980:

29.4% of Black families had incomes of $50,000 a year or more

In 2008

40% of Black families had incomes of $50,000 a year or more

The number of Black families with incomes of $50,000 or more increased by 36.05%.

In 1980

41% of Black American families made less $25,000 a year


In 2008

31.5% of Black American families made less $25,000 a year

The percentage of Black American families making made less than $25,000 a year decreased by 19.7% from 1980 to 2008.


How can you or anybody else say that Democratic Party is "enslaving" Black Americans if the long term poverty rate is DECREASING. The percentage of Black Americans with four year degrees is INCREASED at TWICE the population growth rate while the number of Black families with income of $50,000 is INCREASING and the number of Black American families with incomes below $25,000 is DECREASING?

The fundamental problem with your assertion is THEY AREN'T BASED ON FACTS.

Which means the opinion that you are expressing is BASED ON A BIAS.

And since your BIAS reflects a negative opinion of Black Americans NOT based on facts and you choose to lump ALL Black Americans in the same category without regard to education or income, or anything else the only conclusion one can draw is that YOU ARE PREJUDICED AGAINST BLACK AMERICANS.
You arent seriously comparing $50K from the 1980's, to $50K from 2008, and pretending its the same.. are you?
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:41 PM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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You arent seriously comparing $50K from the 1980's, to $50K from 2008, and pretending its the same.. are you?
He has to see the flaw in his logic, It's ridiculous to even suggest that it is a statistically sound comparison.
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:42 PM
 
Location: where people are either too stupid to leave or too stuck to move
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And the sky is blue , whats new
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