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Old 06-07-2012, 03:25 PM
 
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To be fair marc allen 242 said to help "a vet". They didn't specify if it was a vet they new, a vet they know or a vet of an acquaintance so making a personnal attack seems pointless. Even if you take the statement as meaning every veteran of every war globally in the past century it's still a bit of a spurious reason to suggest that the poster is offering support to rapists and military murderers and abusers who contravine the Articles of War and the Geneva Convention aswell as many right and just civillian laws.

Oh, by the way..

Abu Graib doesn't exist but Abu Ghraib does and girs (Girs) is a French manufacturer of good quality bicycles specialising in Mountain Bikes.
Well, thank you for clarifying that for me.
I'll be more cautious for you when I'm typing on my android.

I responded to one poster specifically who wrote that he would give the shirt off his back to a vet. Being a vet doesn't make anyone special.
I responded in kind.
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Being a veteran is not a protected class.
End of story?
Ummmm, might want to learn a little about the law before you make some silly statements about it.
UMMM in Ma. where this took place there are anti discrimination laws that include veterans. YOU might want to learn a little about the law before YOU comment on factual statements.

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Military service members and veterans are part of a protected class in Massachusetts and, therefore, they cannot be discriminated against.
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:28 PM
 
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I've known a lot of conservatives who are anti-war. Where did the article say the landlord was a leftist?
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:30 PM
 
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UMMM in Ma. where this took place there are anti discrimination laws that include veterans. YOU might want to learn a little about the law before YOU comment on factual statements.

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The problem is, there is a law in MA that prohibits the discrimination against veterans.
I stand corrected, on a federal level, they are not protected.

Prohibits discrimination for what?
Does your law state in housing, employment, or what? It would have to be specific.
If he told them that he was a combat veteran and that he perhaps killed someone, he wouldn't be living in my house, either.

He found another place to live.
Does this mean that I'm forced, if I live in MA, to rent to a veteran because they're a "protected" class?
If I'm concerned about my safety or otherwise uncomfortable or creeped out by someone, I can be forced to rent to them nonetheless?

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Old 06-07-2012, 03:35 PM
 
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I stand corrected, on a federal level, they are not protected.

Prohibits discrimination for what?
Does your law state in housing, employment, or what? It would have to be specific.
If he told them that he was a combat veteran and that he perhaps killed someone, he wouldn't be living in my house, either.
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For the owner, lessee, sublessee, licensed real estate broker, assignee or managing agent of publicly assisted or multiple dwelling or contiguously located housing accommodations or other person having the right of ownership or possession or right to rent or lease, or sell or negotiate for the sale of such accommodations, or any agent or employee of such a person, or any organization of unit owners in a condominium or housing cooperative: (a) to refuse to rent or lease or sell or negotiate for sale or otherwise to deny to or withhold from any person or group of persons such accommodations because of the race, religious creed, color, national origin, sex, sexual orientation, which shall not include persons whose sexual orientation involves minor children as the sex object, age, genetic information, ancestry, or marital status of such person or persons or because such person is a veteran or member of the armed forces, or because such person is blind, or hearing impaired or has any other handicap;
General Laws: CHAPTER 151B, Section 4

Do some research before you call people out.
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:59 PM
 
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Well, thank you for clarifying that for me.
I'll be more cautious for you when I'm typing on my android.

I responded to one poster specifically who wrote that he would give the shirt off his back to a vet. Being a vet doesn't make anyone special.
I responded in kind.
In your comment that vets aren't anyone special i agree but the poster (Marc Allen 242) made a comment that was showing that they felt Veterans were deserving of good treatment. They didn't say that they considered Veterans to be better or deserving of special treatment.

My response to you was to show that i thought your comment about abusers and rapists was uncalled for in the context that the post was intended, i certainly understood what they meant.

Oh, don't check your typing on my behalf, i was showing you what a pedantic and argumentative person could do if they decided to respond to everything that they read exactly as it was written and not in the way it was most probably intended. I'm sure i'd never find a person like that on here though...
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Old 06-07-2012, 04:04 PM
 
Location: California
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I'm still not sure there is anything to this since he never actually applied for the apartment. Basically all there is now is a difference of opinion (him and the manager...not illegal) and a possibility of being denied. Can we punish for something that "might" have happened? I don't know. I guess we'll find out.
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Old 06-07-2012, 08:04 PM
 
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Being a veteran is not a protected class.
End of story?
Ummmm, might want to learn a little about the law before you make some silly statements about it.
It is in California.
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Old 06-07-2012, 08:07 PM
 
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UMMM in Ma. where this took place there are anti discrimination laws that include veterans. YOU might want to learn a little about the law before YOU comment on factual statements.

From the original link.
Same law here in California. Amazing when you think about it. All these phony ass red states that wave flags and sing praises to the military do not have the protections that we blue states have for them.
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Old 06-07-2012, 08:09 PM
 
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I'm still not sure there is anything to this since he never actually applied for the apartment. Basically all there is now is a difference of opinion (him and the manager...not illegal) and a possibility of being denied. Can we punish for something that "might" have happened? I don't know. I guess we'll find out.
He did not have to apply. He was made to feel unwelcome to apply. That is the same under the law. No different than showing a black person property and saying "you know you'd be the only black here and you might feel unwelcome". Illegal.
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