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Old 06-06-2012, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Yes, just think about the "Miami zombie" who went into a drug psychosis and murdered an innocent man. He has been trying to get off pot for a long time, but has not been able to quit.
There have been no toxicology results in that case, so anything at this point is either speculation or rumor.
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Old 06-06-2012, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Florida
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There have been no toxicology results in that case, so anything at this point is either speculation or rumor.
His relatives confirmed he was a pot addict.
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Old 06-06-2012, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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The use of spirits and intoxicants goes back thousands of years.
YAH but now we have "delivery systems" the ancients did not walk around stoned all day long...being high or drunk all the time stunts your developement ..You have to have the dynamics of ups and downs in your life to build character- If you are in a linear high hazy mode- you will wake up when you are 40 with the mentality of a `19 year old- good luck with those thousands of years justification...
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Old 06-06-2012, 05:42 PM
 
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Yes, just think about the "Miami zombie" who went into a drug psychosis and murdered an innocent man. He has been trying to get off pot for a long time, but has not been able to quit.
That guy was inhaling bath salts which has a similar effect as PCP - hallucinating.

He never would have started chewing on someone elses's face if
he was just smoking pot. Not in a million years - certainly not caused
by the high of marijuana.

"The severity of the bath salt crisis cannot be overstated," Senator Olympia Snowe of Maine wrote in a statement. "This use of these mind-altering drugs are resulting in prolonged, violent episodes and greatly stressing the resources of local law enforcement and medical facilities."

In 2010 there were 304 calls made to poison centers nationally about exposure to bath salts, according to the American Association of Poison Control Centers. In 2011, that number had skyrocketed to 6,138.

Face-eating man incident intensifies scrutiny over 'bath salts' drug | Society | guardian.co.uk
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Old 06-06-2012, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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His relatives confirmed he was a pot addict.
Which is second hand information at this point.
Pot didnt make him do that, to say it did is an exaggeration of the grossest nature.
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Old 06-06-2012, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Which is second hand information at this point.
Pot didnt make him do that, to say it did is an exaggeration of the grossest nature.
I know you don't want to hear it, but pot can trigger serious mental episodes.


Marijuana Use Linked to Risk of Psychotic Symptoms

Researchers assessed marijuana use during a 10-year study of 1,923 participants aged 14 to 24 in Germany.

Those participants who had no psychotic symptoms and had never tried marijuana when the study began and then started using marijuana had nearly double the risk of experiencing psychotic symptoms in the future.

And those who used marijuana before start of the study and who continued use over the study period had an increased risk of persistent psychotic symptoms, the study shows.

“Our study confirmed cannabis as an environmental risk factor, impacting on the risk of psychosis by increasing the risk of incident psychotic experiences and if use continues over time, increasing the risk of persistent psychotic experiences,†write researchers who were led by Jim van Os, MD, PhD, a professor of psychiatry and neuropsychology at the South Limburg Mental Health Research and Teaching Network of Maastricht University Medical Center in the Netherlands.
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Old 06-06-2012, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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I know you don't want to hear it, but pot can trigger serious mental episodes.


Marijuana Use Linked to Risk of Psychotic Symptoms

Researchers assessed marijuana use during a 10-year study of 1,923 participants aged 14 to 24 in Germany.

Those participants who had no psychotic symptoms and had never tried marijuana when the study began and then started using marijuana had nearly double the risk of experiencing psychotic symptoms in the future.

And those who used marijuana before start of the study and who continued use over the study period had an increased risk of persistent psychotic symptoms, the study shows.

“Our study confirmed cannabis as an environmental risk factor, impacting on the risk of psychosis by increasing the risk of incident psychotic experiences and if use continues over time, increasing the risk of persistent psychotic experiences,” write researchers who were led by Jim van Os, MD, PhD, a professor of psychiatry and neuropsychology at the South Limburg Mental Health Research and Teaching Network of Maastricht University Medical Center in the Netherlands.
Lol, you're citing that story as reputable?
No links to actually read the studies, no links to the researchers, no links to anything.
Please.
Thats as lame as your link to about.com last night.
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Old 06-06-2012, 06:21 PM
 
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He never would have started chewing on someone elses's face if
he was just smoking pot. Not in a million years - certainly not caused
by the high of marijuana.
That isn't true:

Cannabis 'doubles risk of psychotic episodes' - Telegraph
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Old 06-06-2012, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Funny, your article cites the same study as Finns, but no actual link to the data of the study itself, just like Finns article.
Cant imagine why that is.
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Old 06-06-2012, 06:28 PM
 
Location: California
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If someone is mentally unstable to begin with who knows what can set them off. But we don't create rules as if we are all mentall unstable.
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