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Old 06-06-2012, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Florida
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"Romans 1:26-27: "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence [sic] of their error which was meet."

This is generally what thumpers cite as what the alleged god jesus said about homosexuality. Yep, try finding a consensus on what that gibberish means. Generally, most xians I know believe in a random mix of stuff from the old and new testaments depending on what sits well with them on any given day. So, they'll cite the more definitive passage in regards to homosexuality in the old testament and claim that jesus said it not knowing where it came from. Serial cherrypicking causes these issues.
Every word in the bible is from God. We are to hate the sin and love the sinner. A big difference to this preachers message.

 
Old 06-06-2012, 06:56 PM
 
Location: In bed with Madonna
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Many countries legalized gay marriage and nothing ever happened. I don't know why this country is so backwards when it comes to gay rights. I just don't get it.
 
Old 06-06-2012, 07:54 PM
 
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Many countries legalized gay marriage and nothing ever happened. I don't know why this country is so backwards when it comes to gay rights. I just don't get it.
Right wingers, most notably the evangelical nutcases. Their bigotry and hatred are trying to keep america in the dark ages.
 
Old 06-06-2012, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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Every word in the bible is from God. We are to hate the sin and love the sinner. A big difference to this preachers message.
I don't recall seeing any "god" signature in the bible. All I see are the names of men who lived and wrote the bible decades after the alleged god allegedly flew bodily into the sky after allegedly killing himself.
 
Old 06-06-2012, 08:17 PM
 
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There are "nutjobs" all over the place ~yawn~
 
Old 06-06-2012, 08:50 PM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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I always find it interesting that these guys only see gay sex as sin and never say a peep about the guy banging his secretary on a nooner.
 
Old 06-06-2012, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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There is no ideology to the issue of equal rights for GLBT people; it's a Constitutional issue. First you suggest that there may be more nut jobs in the GLBT community, then say that this preacher doesn't represent any Christian that you know. Can you not see the incongruity of those two statements?
Firstly: I said "this guy doesn't represent any Christians I know" and from this one simple (and truthful) statement, you construed that I must know every Christian, rendering my statement to be incongruent. Maybe that's the problem with people like you. You somehow believe that ALL Christians think alike so any opinion from A Christian (me) that differs from ANOTHER Christian (him) is incompatible. NEWSFLASH There are many many Christians who believe entirely different things comparitively. We only share one divine truth that labels us Christians.

Secondly... which is it LGBT or GLBT, Gay or Glee, He, Heshe or it?... make up your minds.
 
Old 06-06-2012, 09:54 PM
 
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This character doesn't represent any Christian that I know.
And yet he's President of an organization that so many of you use to support your myths about gays on this board.
 
Old 06-06-2012, 09:56 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Frozenyo View Post
"Romans 1:26-27: "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence [sic] of their error which was meet."

This is generally what thumpers cite as what the alleged god jesus said about homosexuality. Yep, try finding a consensus on what that gibberish means. Generally, most xians I know believe in a random mix of stuff from the old and new testaments depending on what sits well with them on any given day. So, they'll cite the more definitive passage in regards to homosexuality in the old testament and claim that jesus said it not knowing where it came from. Serial cherrypicking causes these issues.
Most Christians also ignore the preceding and following verses from the one above, and have no understanding of its relation to Greek culture or Plato's philosophy, where it originates.

It is ALWAYS pulled out of context and culture.
 
Old 06-06-2012, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Many countries legalized gay marriage and nothing ever happened. I don't know why this country is so backwards when it comes to gay rights. I just don't get it.
Well, a lot of Americans are grossly offended by sodomy and wouldn't do it with the opposite sex. So they regard people who engage in sodomy as less than equal.
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