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They were stating it well before Bush ever became president. You know that though as I know you have read the statements.
Democrats were vehemently opposed to a war with Iraq, especially in the house. The senate did have greater support but NOTHING like the support republicans showed, with 98% of republican congressmen voting yes (269 out of 276), whereas 43% of democrats did (111 out of 258).
They were stating it well before Bush ever became president. You know that though as I know you have read the statements.
What's wrong with that line of thinking is the timeline. Those who try to make this argument point to 1998 quotes of Democrats, as if there was no additional information from 1998 to 2003. Those who made those statements in 1998 no longer had the same view in later years.
What's wrong with that line of thinking is the timeline. Those who try to make this argument point to 1998 quotes of Democrats, as if there was no additional information from 1998 to 2003. Those who made those statements in 1998 no longer had the same view in later years.
Opinion noted.
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
Yes, if you're tying them being proponents of 2003 invasion on those grounds. Why else would you mention that? It is also amusing to see someone who hates bringing up of the past for discussion over a specific time period... do just that and with passion.
Yes, if you're tying them being proponents of 2003 invasion on those grounds. Why else would you mention that? It is also amusing to see someone who hates bringing up of the past for discussion over a specific time period... do just that and with passion.
I'm not trying to say that is why we invaded. I'm saying that many high profile Dems had the same opinion of Saddam as Bush did.
I hate to bring up the past? One does not learn without the lessons from the past.
You continued to bring up past markets that I had stated many times that were built upon absolutely nothing. I didn't avoid talking about them.
Correct. I use the past for comparison and investigation of causes and trends. You hated them. Hopefully, that is behind and our future exchanges will not be about dismissing the effects of the past, regardless of the time. Is that okay?
Democrats were vehemently opposed to a war with Iraq, especially in the house. The senate did have greater support but NOTHING like the support republicans showed, with 98% of republican congressmen voting yes (269 out of 276), whereas 43% of democrats did (111 out of 258).
"The senate did have greater support".
Yet the dem Senate Majority Leader co-sponsored the bill to authorized the actions.
And we know how powerful the Senate Majority leaded is. All we have to do is look at Harry Reid's reign and how he ALONE has stopped any legislation from going through the Senate that HE doesn't want..
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