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Old 06-06-2012, 09:16 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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How close are you to dying in the street?


Ya ha! just ignorant talk.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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Patriots admit when/where their country needs to improve, Nationalists pretend that their country is perfect.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:18 PM
 
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Patriots admit when/where their country needs to improve, Nationalists pretend that their country is perfect.
Well said.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:25 PM
 
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Democrats will never be satisfied as long as there are things that can be improved.

Republicans will be satisfied as soon as the rich have everything and the rest of us are dying in the streets.
X3, this says it all
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:27 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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To say that Democrats HATE America might be a bit of strong language.

But, there's no doubt that Democrats are always trying to change this country.
Because the Repubs radically changed the country's tax structure and sold the country down the river. Dems just want to restore what the GOP trashed.


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So, why are Democrats Dissatisfied With America?

And when will Democrats finally be satisfied?
Dems are dissatisfied because there's massive unemployment and "it's the economy, stupid!" Unlike the GOP, which doesn't care, and did a lot to get America into this mess in the first place.

Dems will be satisfied when the middle class and opportunities for upward mobility are restored, and everyone pays their fair share of taxes. As if you didn't know, troll.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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I think being satisfied is overrated. People who do great things are not self-satisfied. What if Einstein had been satisfied at the patent office? What if Vivaldi was happy with one season? What if Shakespeare had been happy with one play? What if Wilt Chamberlain had been happy with 98 points? What if Billie Jean King had been satisfied and "knew her place?" And it goes for larger groups too. Our forefathers (and mothers) were not satisfied. They gave of themselves to make things better for each successive generation. Now the older generations wants to hoard the marbles and have a circle jerk. No thanks.

Dems at their best are like demanding parents who want a smart kid to excel, rather than let him sit in his room all day eating cheetohs and playing guitar hero and telling him how "gifted" he is. We love America, but we have no illusions that it will stay great and keep getting better if we go on and on about how great we are, when your typical voter listens to blowhards for news, and considers exceptionalism (we are great-just because!) and parroting corporate propaganda to be substitutes for self-criticism, a thirst for knowledge, and hard work. Asian students are kicking our asses because they are not satisfied. And they have the right model, in my opinion.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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Let's see.

Liberals were dissatisfied with America when we were ruled by a foreign king.

Liberals were dissatisfied with America when people were allowed to own other human beings as slaves.

Liberals were dissatisfied with America when unregulated markets allowed tainted food and dangerous drugs were freely sold to the public.

Liberals were dissatisfied with America when women were denied the right to vote.

Liberals were dissatisfied with America when children could be forced to work instead of going to school, and when workers were forced to work seven days a week in unsafe working conditions.

Liberals were dissatisfied with America when workers who had lost their jobs had no income, and waited in bread lines for meager handouts to feed their families.

Liberals were dissatisfied with America when workers were fired for trying to join together to improve their wages, hours, and working conditions, and when they had no say in any of them.

Liberals were dissatisfied with America when workers retired into poverty.

Liberals were dissatisfied with America when black children were not allowed to attend the same schools as white children, but were relegated to inferior and poorly funded institutions.

Liberals were dissatisfied when the poor and elderly could not afford medical care.

Liberals were dissatisfied with America when minorities could be denied equal access to employment, housing, and public accommodations.

Liberals were dissatisfied with America when corrupt Southern politicians beat and imprisoned black Americans who tried to register to vote.

Liberals were dissatisfied with America when our leaders used lies and fabrications to convince us to embark on wars of aggression against countries and people who posed no threat to us.

Liberals were dissatisfied with America when people with disabilities were denied educational and job opportunities.

Liberals were dissatisfied with America when patriotic Americans were denied the right to serve their country because of their sexual orientation.

Liberals are dissatisfied with America when we see that not all families are treated equally.

Liberals are dissatisfied with America when we see that the share of income received by the highest one percent of the population is higher than it has ever been, and when the chance that a person born into a lower income family has less opportunity than ever for an affluent or middle-class life.

Liberals are dissatisfied with America when we see that millions of our fellow Americans still cannot afford basic health care.

Liberals are dissatisfied with America when we see that banks that defrauded millions of their life savings and took their homes away are propped up with our tax dollars, while the wealthy speculators who caused the crisis have not been brought to justice.

Yes, there are still many reasons for liberals to be dissatisfied with America. Fortunately, there are also many of us who continue to work for the day when this great country will fulfill its promise to all Americans.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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We're not.

We love America!

Next topic....
Sure don't act like it.
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Sure don't act like it.
Being satisfied and loving America are two different things. This the sort of self-serving crap conservatives are always trotting out. Democrats hate America. I think patriotism like religious conviction is most likely to be strongest among those who do the least posturing. Maybe we don't go for the Jimmy Swaggart type of patriotism.

Besides, all this talk about starving the government in the midst of two wars and a recession strikes me as pretty unpatriotic. It is patriotic to pay your taxes with a belief in your country, not to whine about the lowest tax rates in 50 years.
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Old 06-07-2012, 01:52 AM
 
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Being satisfied and loving America are two different things. This the sort of self-serving crap conservatives are always trotting out. Democrats hate America. I think patriotism like religious conviction is most likely to be strongest among those who do the least posturing. Maybe we don't go for the Jimmy Swaggart type of patriotism.

Besides, all this talk about starving the government in the midst of two wars and a recession strikes me as pretty unpatriotic. It is patriotic to pay your taxes with a belief in your country, not to whine about the lowest tax rates in 50 years.

So Democrats are dissatisfied because TAXES ARE NOT HIGH ENOUGH.
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