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Old 06-17-2012, 09:18 PM
 
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And your proof is where? All I see is a bunch of assumptions.
Charitable Giving Statistics | NPTrust

It's a good thing that nonexistent oversight came up with nonexistent data for your nonexistent proof.
Read and weep ... (above ... with links)
The business of marketing communications is where I spent a good part of my professional years ... also journalism. I know the businesses of fundraising and other kinds of promotions well.

Sorry.
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:32 PM
 
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Read and weep ... (above ... with links)
The business of marketing communications is where I spent a good part of my professional years ... also journalism. I know the businesses of fundraising and other kinds of promotions well.

Sorry.
So you draw that conclusion from giving, what, .00084507% as an example that they're all corrupt? Maybe you need to go back to school and learn about statistics.
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Old 06-17-2012, 10:16 PM
 
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So you draw that conclusion from giving, what, .00084507% as an example that they're all corrupt? Maybe you need to go back to school and learn about statistics.
Please find where I said -- or even intimated -- "that they're all corrupt". [italics mine]. Get back to me when you have your report ready.

I said I can go on with more examples, but that I wouldn't ... and I won't ... suffice that you asked -- and you received.

Don't assume that my extreme distaste for organized religion equates to any lack of appreciation for spiritual wonder. But I assure you that organized religion is rife with fraud of great variety. And religion and fundraising together are dripping ripe for abuse. I do know a very great deal about the psychology of marketing and promoting and the type of people who love to live that live and leverage it very, uh, shall I say, very creatively. The field is a magnet for hucksters and con men.

Go pray, alone, in a field or on a mountain top if you truly wish to enjoin with the presence of the almighty.
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Old 06-18-2012, 06:38 AM
 
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Ah, predictable responses for the most part so far ...
Note: most non-profits provide exclusively community / public service that relieves government of cost burdens and add to societal advantage.

Churches serve very little in the way of those functions, if any for many, and focus on only very narrow membership groups. Catholic charities represent only a small portion of their budgets, for example. All the while collecting revenues for their own use.
I'm glad you have an insight into the finances of every parish and congregation in the country. The Catholic Church is closing parishes and schools because of a lack of revenue. Does it sound like they're swimming in cash?
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:16 AM
 
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I'm glad you have an insight into the finances of every parish and congregation in the country. The Catholic Church is closing parishes and schools because of a lack of revenue. Does it sound like they're swimming in cash?
In the case of Catholic Charities, and the Catholic church, you can easily look it up ... there are numerous reports at your Google fingertips.
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:22 PM
 
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So you draw that conclusion from giving, what, .00084507% as an example that they're all corrupt? Maybe you need to go back to school and learn about statistics.
What he said.
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:24 PM
 
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What he said.
What I said:
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:56 PM
 
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Only if all "non-profits" including all those in the list I posted way back, have to pay taxes, too. No more tax breaks for the Humane Society, or the Bolder Boulder (which benefits only itself), high school booster clubs, etc.
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:29 PM
 
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Only if all "non-profits" including all those in the list I posted way back, have to pay taxes, too. No more tax breaks for the Humane Society, or the Bolder Boulder (which benefits only itself), high school booster clubs, etc.
This is the rock-solid argument that anti-religious bigots like Nuttela never get around to answering. They run from it like cowards, because the know it blows their boat out of the water.
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