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Corporate welfare is something that EVERY person...
- pushing to put EVERY aspect of general welfare on corporations
- supports such monstrosities as Citizens United ruling
- believes that private enterprise is something to blindly trust in
- that government can never do anything right and private enterprise is always right towards welfare of the people
- that quick bust and bubble economy actually works great.
And then play the victim card.
Its a shame you spend so much time keying this list considering many of them make absolutely no sense at all. If government wasnt so dam involved in everything we do, then things like corporate welfare, nor citizens united wouldnt even exist.
But hey, you just keep whining you need more governmental handouts while YOU whine about the results..
I have been proving your argument wrong, since probably we engaged the very first time.
ooh please, even these economists have validated what I've been saying for awhile, that while Keynesian economics might work in some places, it wont work here because WE DONT RUN SURPLUSES, and we DONT MAKE PLANS TO DO SO.
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So much for those idiots for economists... a term you use for the economists that disagree with you.
Actually these idiot economists are Keynesian theory economists, something you advocate. Are you calling yourself an idiot now?
Liberals, we've tried it your way for going on 50 years now. You promised us nirvana and bliss if only we surrendered our liberty and our property to the government.
Oh come on, just because socialism/communism has caused the murderous deaths of millions of people, and having never worked once in recorded human history, is no reason not to try it again.
Seriously, what could be wrong about commandeering the work product of an individual who worked hard, only to give it to someone who didn't work so hard, in order to make things "fair"? What possibly could go wrong here?
ooh please, even these economists have validated what I've been saying for awhile, that while Keynesian economics might work in some places, it wont work here because WE DONT RUN SURPLUSES, and we DONT MAKE PLANS TO DO SO.
Actually these idiot economists are Keynesian theory economists, something you advocate. Are you calling yourself an idiot now?
THAT is Keynesian at its core. Clearly, you don't have a clue about Keynesian... but then, it hasn't been a secret either.
I know they don't make sense, because they are beyond your capacity, and from whatever you get out of it, doesn't bode well with your political games.
"If men were angels, there would be no need for government"
- James Madison
Who's advocating abolishing government? You just jump from one babble to another and pretend you are taking part in a discussion.
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Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost
THAT is Keynesian at its core. Clearly, you don't have a clue about Keynesian... but then, it hasn't been a secret either.
I know its the core of Keynesian economics You just keep babbling on while supporting only PART of the keynesian theories because you lack the education to understand that without plans to PAY FOR THE DEBTS, the policies FAIL..
Tell me why I should listen to you, and not these economic advisors who actually have a role in government who says you're wrong?
Liberals, we've tried it your way for going on 50 years now. You promised us nirvana and bliss if only we surrendered our liberty and our property to the government. What do we have to show for it? Record poverty, record unemployment, record home foreclosures, record misery, record debt and deficits, record food stamp usage, etc. Despite the abysmal results of liberals' give everything to the government fiscal policies, liberals not only demand that we continue their insane policies of giving everything to the ruling class to disperse as they see fit, but they rather boldly demand that we double down on their failed policies. We've tried it your way liberals. The only people who are befitting from these voodoo economics are the liberal ruling class and their cronies who have gotten richer than ever before while the rest of us continue to get poorer. How does giving everything to the government benefit anyone (let alone the poor) but those in the government? We give you our money so you can turn around and enrich yourselves and your cronies while patting yourself on the back for being caring and compassionate. At the same time you call us greedy for not wanting the give up more of the few scraps you let us keep? It seems to me liberals only want a return to feudalism where everyone works like a slave for the benefit of the ruling class, and the liberal overlords decide who gets to keep what? You say tax the rich. Seeing as the real rich are the ruling class, I agree.
Tax the politicians.
Tax the public sector unions.
Tax the welfare class.
Tax the crony corporations.
Tax the financial class.
We have never tried real liberalism. Real liberalism does the best for the most amount of people. Look at places like Sweden, Denmark and others where REAL liberalism is practiced. They have high standards of living, educated peoples and low crime
Who's advocating abolishing government? You just jump from one babble to another and pretend you are taking part in a discussion.
Neutered government and powerful corporate influence is worse than advocating abolishing of government. Besides, it wouldn't make for convenience... you need something to blame all the ills on.
Neutered government and powerful corporate influence is worse than advocating abolishing of government. Besides, it wouldn't make for convenience... you need something to blame all the ills on.
Thats not at all a response to what I said.
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No you don't. Want me to prove it?
You again didnt answer the question asked, why should I believe YOU, over these economists who have been involved with governmental economics who say you're wrong?
"If men were angels, there would be no need for government"
- James Madison
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger
on that article of the Constitution
which granted a right to Congress of expending,
on the objects of benevolence,
the money of their constituents."
What Country are you talking about? In America we are slowly pulling out of a deep, deep recession with Centrist Economic policies. We could speed that up if there were help from the Right and Left, but til that happens, we must slog slowly.
What country are you talking about? The country where the corrupt obama presides is getting in deeper every day. Things are getting worse on a daily basis.
You believe obama who declares the economy is fine. If you believe that whopper, you shouldn't be voting. Only people with common sense should vote, that leaves out the majority of democrats...
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