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Old 06-11-2012, 01:13 PM
 
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Jeb Bush says GOP primaries boxed in Romney on immigration | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

The former Florida governor criticized the tone of the Republican debate over illegal immigration. "I do feel a little out of step with my party on this," said Bush, who supports immigration reform.

Bush told reporters at the breakfast that even Ronald Reagan would have a tough time winning the Republican presidential nomination in today's partisan climate, in which working with members of the other party is seen as a weakness.

PS: He also bad mouthed Dem's as well. The article is about Romney getting boxed in over immigration with the GOP.

Seems like(to me) he wants to stay a repub but doesn't like his comrades.
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Old 06-11-2012, 02:39 PM
 
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How many illegals does Jeb wish to fund?
Here in California an illegal costs:
$15,000 per child in school (that usually right there is between 30k and 90k a year alone).
Free health insurance to them, and all cost to us.
Go have babies for free.
Give them free food, money, a car seat and everything else.

I for one would deport any illegal or resident that doesn't pay their own way and are on the system. They are becoming as big a drag on society as government workers these days.

Jeb is out of his mind IMO.

Despite the one time pass on citizenship for illegals, Jeb is right, getting Reagan elected despite the need for him today would be tougher. We've had 35 years of Union teacher left wing indoctrination at school for those 35 years of students and they have to live enough of life to get over that handicap given them.
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Old 06-11-2012, 02:41 PM
 
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McCain took this same route in the late 90's and it blew up in his face.
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Immigration is the Achillees heel of both parties because it displays the complete lack of reason in the mindset of the "swing voter"; we want the cheap (in the short run) labor illegals provide, and the willingness to do jobs a lot of us won't go near. But we don't want them to have access to the same entitlements we're not willing to deny the ne'er do wells in the ranks of supposedly "good" Americans.

And on the "input" side, we wonder why we can't keep the high-paying jobs which are going to places where bureaucrats, regulators, Not-in-My-Backyard dilletentes and lawsuit-happy idiots just don't have the ability to complicate things the way it's done here.

Sorry, children; -- can't have it both ways.
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:14 PM
 
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It is the achilles heel for both parties. Probably moreso the Republicans though. They couldn't do any real reform while they had the House, Senate and Presidency as they aren't willing to take the risks involved with compromise. The Democrats can't really get anything done as the Republicans won't work with them.

In terms of where the jobs are going, I take it you haven't traveled much. Those jobs are heading to many places including Germany, China and India. You're out of your mind if you think that regulation and bureaucracy doesn't exist in those jurisdictions. Getting things done in China is just painful.
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:19 PM
 
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How many illegals does Jeb wish to fund?
Here in California an illegal costs:
$15,000 per child in school (that usually right there is between 30k and 90k a year alone).
Free health insurance to them, and all cost to us.
Go have babies for free.
Give them free food, money, a car seat and everything else.

I for one would deport any illegal or resident that doesn't pay their own way and are on the system. They are becoming as big a drag on society as government workers these days.

Jeb is out of his mind IMO.

Despite the one time pass on citizenship for illegals, Jeb is right, getting Reagan elected despite the need for him today would be tougher. We've had 35 years of Union teacher left wing indoctrination at school for those 35 years of students and they have to live enough of life to get over that handicap given them.
Where are you going to send those residents to?
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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They'd better not work 'with the other party', on illegal immigration or anything. We didn't send them to DC to compromise with idiots. We sent them there to do our bidding, and giving passes to illegal immigrants ain't gonna cut it.

If they start compromising, they're history.
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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How many illegals does Jeb wish to fund?
Here in California an illegal costs:
$15,000 per child in school (that usually right there is between 30k and 90k a year alone).
Free health insurance to them, and all cost to us.
Go have babies for free.
Give them free food, money, a car seat and everything else.

I for one would deport any illegal or resident that doesn't pay their own way and are on the system. They are becoming as big a drag on society as government workers these days.

Jeb is out of his mind IMO.

Despite the one time pass on citizenship for illegals, Jeb is right, getting Reagan elected despite the need for him today would be tougher. We've had 35 years of Union teacher left wing indoctrination at school for those 35 years of students and they have to live enough of life to get over that handicap given them.
Hmmm - so in your mind Illegal Aliens have an equivalent impact on our society as Police, Firemen, Food Inspectors, Judges, etc.?
Simply amazing!
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:29 PM
 
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Jeb Bush says GOP primaries boxed in Romney on immigration | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

The former Florida governor criticized the tone of the Republican debate over illegal immigration. "I do feel a little out of step with my party on this," said Bush, who supports immigration reform.

Bush told reporters at the breakfast that even Ronald Reagan would have a tough time winning the Republican presidential nomination in today's partisan climate, in which working with members of the other party is seen as a weakness.

PS: He also bad mouthed Dem's as well. The article is about Romney getting boxed in over immigration with the GOP.

Seems like(to me) he wants to stay a repub but doesn't like his comrades.
Jeb might just be positioning for 2012. He is fairly popular with the latinos and that might be enough to get him into the WH.
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:30 PM
 
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Jeb might just be positioning for 2012. He is fairly popular with the latinos and that might be enough to get him into the WH.
McCain showed where you can not win by alienating the base.
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