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Old 09-25-2007, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Journey's End
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So, how about alienating everyone, not just the dictators, terrorists, pastry chiefs, and hot-dog stand owners--but our neighbours, our allies and our hosts.

Cubans walk out during Bush U.N. speech - Yahoo! News (broken link)
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:25 PM
 
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So, how about alienating everyone, not just the dictators, terrorists, pastry chiefs, and hot-dog stand owners--but our neighbours, our allies and our hosts.

Cubans walk out during Bush U.N. speech - Yahoo! News (broken link)
(holding head in hands) My decision to help this man into office back in 2000 is one of the single greatest mistakes of my entire life and I have made some real doosies.

Although my German and Maygar may be rusty, my Spanish is just fine, and from my last trip to the Cuban quarter of Tampa, even the anti-Castro folks shuddered when Bush speaks. The man is beyond an embarrassment and goes to prove that even an empty warhead is still a dangerous thing.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:29 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I heard a bit of his whining about the oppressive regime in Myanmar and the lack of human rights, didn't hear any whining about his oppressive Saudi buddies and the lack of human rights there. I guess he's not an equal opportunity spreaderer of democracy.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I heard a bit of his whining about the oppressive regime in Myanmar and the lack of human rights, didn't hear any whining about his oppressive Saudi buddies and the lack of human rights there. I guess he's not an equal opportunity spreaderer of democracy.
You're so right about the whining. I cringe inside when I hear him.

Why does this man -- leader of the most powerful nation on earth and a potential force for good almost beyond exaggeration -- feel compelled, when speaking in public, to imitate an adolescent boy trying to borrow dad's car?

And he seems constitutionally unable to speak extemporaneously. Does he really need a scripted answer to everything, a script which he is obviously unable to properly read, anyway?

Dam the Democrats. Why couldn't they have nominated someone halfway decent, instead of a pompous bore followed by a supercilious widow-grabber?
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:41 PM
 
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I heard a bit of his whining about the oppressive regime in Myanmar and the lack of human rights, didn't hear any whining about his oppressive Saudi buddies and the lack of human rights there. I guess he's not an equal opportunity spreaderer of democracy.
If we are talking about human rights violations, let us not forget these lovely characters such as Nursultan Nazarbayev the President of Kazakhstan who is reported to have boiled three pro democracy advocates alive publicly but was then invited to the White House where Laura found him most charming... aint that sweet.

I guess I could point out the Muslim human rights violations and garnish cheers from all around, or just point out the human rights violations in Israel and get labeled an antisemite again.

Lets also not forget when Bush put his arm around Hu Jintao of China, smiled and promptly denounced Taiwan's efforts for democratic independence.

and the list goes on and on and on and on...
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:49 PM
 
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Can't say that I blame the Cuban rep for walking out. Cuba hasn't really done anything to cause us any issues in a long time. There are plenty of REAL dictators and rulers who are causing much worse situations around the world. Being overly critical of a next door neighbor while ignoring the others is worth a walk out.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:49 PM
 
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You're so right about the whining. I cringe inside when I hear him.

Why does this man -- leader of the most powerful nation on earth and a potential force for good almost beyond exaggeration -- feel compelled, when speaking in public, to imitate an adolescent boy trying to borrow dad's car?

And he seems constitutionally unable to speak extemporaneously. Does he really need a scripted answer to everything, a script which he is obviously unable to properly read, anyway?

Dam the Democrats. Why couldn't they have nominated someone halfway decent, instead of a pompous bore followed by a supercilious widow-grabber?

I always have the feeling when he's speaking that he's as much trying to convince himself that he's making sense as anyone else, not exactly confidence inspiring.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:52 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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If we are talking about human rights violations, let us not forget these lovely characters such as Nursultan Nazarbayev the President of Kazakhstan who is reported to have boiled three pro democracy advocates alive publicly but was then invited to the White House where Laura found him most charming... aint that sweet.

I guess I could point out the Muslim human rights violations and garnish cheers from all around, or just point out the human rights violations in Israel and get labeled an antisemite again.

Lets also not forget when Bush put his arm around Hu Jintao of China, smiled and promptly denounced Taiwan's efforts for democratic independence.

and the list goes on and on and on and on...
I agree, it's a long list. I just don't think it's realistic to believe cultures, some many centuries old when the US was founded, are going to change because we say they should. I want a leader who focuses on the US as the #1 priority, I don't think we have that now.
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Old 09-25-2007, 03:00 PM
 
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Can't say that I blame the Cuban rep for walking out. Cuba hasn't really done anything to cause us any issues in a long time. There are plenty of REAL dictators and rulers who are causing much worse situations around the world. Being overly critical of a next door neighbor while ignoring the others is worth a walk out.
In US interest, Cuba is a much a threat as poison ivy. More of an irritant than a real problem, unless of course you are referring to the PR problem or have an insane desire to smoke Cuban cigars and drink Cafe' Con Leche.

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I agree, it's a long list. I just don't think it's realistic to believe cultures, some many centuries old when the US was founded, are going to change because we say they should. I want a leader who focuses on the US as the #1 priority, I don't think we have that now.
Ditto


Vote Ron Paul
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Old 09-25-2007, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I always have the feeling when he's speaking that he's as much trying to convince himself that he's making sense as anyone else, not exactly confidence inspiring.
I know. The poor boob is apparently incapable of even showing false confidence

Such a bundle of contradictions.

Or -- and this is more likely -- a mild form of dyslexia.

Rare in a politician.
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