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So this is supposed to be some ground breaking brilliant statement? Why did Obama not put it simply instead of attempting to be fancy?
Eg- People can't go around telling other people what to do...or maybe quote from a kids' show and say "You're not the boss of me"
This photo and the quote presented as being profound- is the perfect example of empty rhetorical jabber. Next time he says something - take some time to think about it and you will notice that most of the time he says nothing- Just because you SOUND like you are relevant does not make it a fact.
This photo and the quote presented as being profound- is the perfect example of empty rhetorical jabber.
Your argument is empty rhetoric, with the intention to downplay the message. There is nothing empty about a message that conveys that, personal freedoms are personal, not to be directed and governed by a collective: You choose for self. How is that "empty"?
This quote reminds me of another, which I have mentioned a few times:
"A lot of so-called conservatives don't know what the word means. They think I've turned liberal because I believe a woman has a right to an abortion. That's a decision that's up to the pregnant woman, not up to the pope or some do-gooders or the Religious Right."
- Barry Goldwater, 1994
According to the RWNJ's Mr. Goldwater was an ignorant leftist that did not understand the Will of God. God made women to be the slaves of men and that is that. Men wrote that a couple of thousand years ago.
Needless to say this freedom loving conservative posing as a Communist Fascist Autocratic Rebel does not believe any of that BS.
Nonsense.
BC CAN, not will, be a factor in other medical diseases; it's also a lie that BC is solely to prevent pregnancy.
But you know the truth; you just don't like it.
Saying a lie over and over again will never make it the truth.
I took bc even after my tubal ligation because I would be unable to leave my bed with cramps.
Many women use it for more than bc.
Been adopting any unwanted babies lately?
The Church has no problem with taking BC for medical conditions. That is not the issue here.
I tried to adopt but I aged out. Have you tried to adopt?
The Church has no problem with taking BC for medical conditions. That is not the issue here.
I tried to adopt but I aged out. Have you tried to adopt?
Yes, they do. They purposely didn't give their private sector employees access to birth control for those medical reasons. Thats part of the reason it was made mandatory for health insurance companies to cover the cost of the birth control. The church isn't paying for anything they don't want, but what they were already paying for was expanded to cover other things.
On a personal note, You've flopped more in this thread then a fish out of water. Just on this point alone, you first said the ONLY reason to take oral contraception was to avoid pregnancy, and now you're saying that the church has no problem with their employees taking contraception for medical conditions which you didn't acknowledge existed.
Yes, they do. They purposely didn't give their private sector employees access to birth control for those medical reasons. Thats part of the reason it was made mandatory for health insurance companies to cover the cost of the birth control. The church isn't paying for anything they don't want, but what they were already paying for was expanded to cover other things.
On a personal note, You've flopped more in this thread then a fish out of water. Just on this point alone, you first said the ONLY reason to take oral contraception was to avoid pregnancy, and now you're saying that the church has no problem with their employees taking contraception for medical conditions which you didn't acknowledge existed.
Boggles the mind.
Look it up---it's the truth. Medical conditions, other than preventing pregnancy, is no problem.
The Church has no problem with taking BC for medical conditions. That is not the issue here.
I tried to adopt but I aged out. Have you tried to adopt?
Nice backtracking.
It's none of the church's business why people take BC.
Are they, the richest organization in the world, paying for these unwanted babies?
The church needs to lose it's tax status and get in touch with the modern world.
You know, like put up or shut up.
Prove there's a god thingie, or close down.
I don't like kids, hence my sterilization.
I'm not running around trying to force women to breed.
You are.
The church needs to mind its own business and stay out of mine.
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Originally Posted by janelle144
Look it up---it's the truth. Medical conditions, other than preventing pregnancy, is no problem.
That's not what you said.
I'm not looking it up.
You said that the only reason women take BC is to avoid pregnancy.
You chose to throw in the cancer scare, too.
Nice backtracking.
It's none of the church's business why people take BC.
Are they, the richest organization in the world, paying for these unwanted babies?
The church needs to lose it's tax status and get in touch with the modern world.
You know, like put up or shut up.
Prove there's a god thingie, or close down.
I don't like kids, hence my sterilization.
I'm not running around trying to force women to breed.
You are.
The church needs to mind its own business and stay out of mine.
The church would love nothing better than to stay out of your business. When someone buys your insurance they get in your business. Go elsewhere for insurance or be satisfied with what they can provide. That is how it works at each business.
One of the main problems of the modern age is people ascribe "rights" for themselves that do not exist. There is NO "RIGHT" to "religious freedom". It does not exist!
Yes it does, and not just promoted in the US Constitution but in every person's life.
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