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Old 06-16-2012, 01:50 PM
 
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I can only think of one. It is ironic because I can't recall a right wing conservative president ever having been elected.

Romney is certainly a moderate Republican although he tried to paint himself as a conservative in the primaries. Now, he is switching back to the center.

What is ironic is there really is not a whole lot of separation in ideology between Obama and Romney. I don't see a lot of change no matter who wins.
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Old 06-16-2012, 01:53 PM
 
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I can only think of one. It is ironic because I can't recall a right wing conservative president ever having been elected.

Romney is certainly a moderate Republican although he tried to paint himself as a conservative in the primaries. Now, he is switching back to the center.

What is ironic is there really is not a whole lot of separation in ideology between Obama and Romney. I don't see a lot of change no matter who wins.
I know quite a few Republicans who are voting for Obama, I also know quite a few Democrats who are voting for Romney.

Then again, here in Chicago, there is little difference between Dems and Repubs
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Old 06-16-2012, 01:56 PM
 
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What is ironic is there really is not a whole lot of separation in ideology between Obama and Romney. I don't see a lot of change no matter who wins.
Keep in mind that Obama may have been forced to govern as a moderate to some extent, but that does not make him a moderate or mean his ideology is moderate. He was ranked as the most liberal senator one year and some of the proposals he's made have certainly not been moderate.

As far as Romney, I see him as being at least a fairly solid fiscal conservative and he does understand that the free market drives our economy and prefers that to the idea that the government should be the primary driver of our economy, which is what I feel Obama's idea is. No, Obama is not a socialist, communist, or marxist, but I clearly think his views on the role of government are different from Romney's and he has shown that he is willing to demonize capitalism (see the attacks on Bain, among other things) when he feels it will be advantageous to him politically.

That's just my opinion.
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Old 06-16-2012, 01:59 PM
 
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. I don't see a lot of change no matter who wins.
You can't mean this. The GOP wants to privatize Social Security (you should be hearing alarm bells), cut what's left of public services, cut back on abortion rights, ban the morning-after pill, continue tax breaks for the wealthy thereby continuing to undermine the economy, and basically sound the death knell for the economy. Forget about access to health care.

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Old 06-16-2012, 02:03 PM
 
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What is ironic is there really is not a whole lot of separation in ideology between Obama and Romney. I don't see a lot of change no matter who wins.
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Old 06-16-2012, 02:04 PM
 
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Keep in mind that Obama may have been forced to govern as a moderate to some extent, but that does not make him a moderate or mean his ideology is moderate. He was ranked as the most liberal senator one year and some of the proposals he's made have certainly not been moderate.

As far as Romney, I see him as being at least a fairly solid fiscal conservative and he does understand that the free market drives our economy and prefers that to the idea that the government should be the primary driver of our economy, which is what I feel Obama's idea is. No, Obama is not a socialist, communist, or marxist, but I clearly think his views on the role of government are different from Romney's and he has shown that he is willing to demonize capitalism (see the attacks on Bain, among other things) when he feels it will be advantageous to him politically.

That's just my opinion.
You are the only moderate republican that i have read on CD.
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Old 06-16-2012, 02:05 PM
 
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You can't mean this. The GOP wants to privatize Social Security (you should be hearing alarm bells), cut what's left of public services, continue tax breaks for the wealthy thereby continuing to undermine the economy, and basically sound the death knell for the economy. Forget about access to health care.
Privatize Social Security? There have been some proposals to do this over the long term, but certainly not over the short term. I think it would be a good idea...over the very long term. Cut what's left of public services? What? Continue tax breaks for the wealthy thereby continuing to undermine the economy? Raising taxes on anyone during an economic downturn, especially people like small business owners and investors (and - let's not forget - if Obama got the "Buffet Rule" he wants, it would not be continuing a tax break, but would instead be a new tax) is a bad idea - even Bill Clinton apparently thinks so.
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Old 06-16-2012, 02:07 PM
 
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You are the only moderate republican that i have read on CD.
Thank you. We often disagree, but I respect that you're not hyper-partisan as most posters on both sides here are.
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Old 06-16-2012, 02:07 PM
 
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You are the only moderate republican that i have read on CD.
I agree. He's probably considered a RINO
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Old 06-16-2012, 02:08 PM
 
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I can only think of one. It is ironic because I can't recall a right wing conservative president ever having been elected.

Romney is certainly a moderate Republican although he tried to paint himself as a conservative in the primaries. Now, he is switching back to the center.

What is ironic is there really is not a whole lot of separation in ideology between Obama and Romney. I don't see a lot of change no matter who wins.
Me neither. Considering how little has changed since Obama succeeded Bush, I don't suspect and Obama victory or a Romney victory will make much of a difference.
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