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Old 06-16-2012, 11:31 PM
 
Location: FL
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Of course I can't. I cannot control what you believe in. It's just against god to have same-sex marriage
I never read that in my bible. Can you tell me where it is?
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Old 06-16-2012, 11:32 PM
 
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This liberal seems to remember God saying not to judge.

This conservative does, too. This conservative suspects that this liberal doesn't know what judging is, and is not. Same bible that says judging is a sin says that discerning is a gift of the Holy Spirit, and yet in appearance they are very alike, seemingly the same. In reality they are opposites.
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Old 06-16-2012, 11:32 PM
 
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I never read that in my bible. Can you tell me where it is?
God created Man and Woman. If it was just man. Then how would there be children?

Im an American
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Old 06-16-2012, 11:33 PM
 
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I never read that in my bible. Can you tell me where it is?
I can! I can bring the scriptures that easily show that it is a sin in there, as long as the reader of said scriptures is intellectually-honest enough to admit that it's a correct assumption that sex is a part of marriage, at least at the start.
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Old 06-16-2012, 11:33 PM
 
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He's choosing to post here and he says he graduated high school with a 4.0 GPA...at 16. I would hope that someone who presumably graduated high school at least one and most likely two years early with a 4.0 GPA - and who is presumably college-bound (though I am not sure what this "online schooling" thing is that he mentioned; is he actually in Russia or in the US?) could participate in a basic political discussion. I wouldn't say I'm being hard on him at all. If he is going to post here, then he is going to have to accept that other posters will debate him, which is presumably what he wants.



Someone who favors regulation of the economy and businesses, social programs, and "spreading the wealth around," regardless of the economic consequences of it. In addition, someone who favors affirmative action, who doesn't see too much of a problem with illegal immigration, who thinks the environment should be protected regardless of economic consequences, who favors abortion rights, who favors same-sex marriage, who is against gun rights, and who is supportive of telling people what to do "for the greater good" or because "government knows what's best for them." There's plenty I've left out.

It's difficult for me to come up with a broad ideological definition, because I see a lot of contradiction in the various stances.
I think your definitions are way too broad. I found this below, although I don't believe all of it is correct, it comes closer than most.

Conservative vs. Liberal Beliefs
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Old 06-16-2012, 11:35 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Yup pretty much. But a political liberal truly doesn't believe in gods values if they believe in pro-abortion and/or pro-same-sex-marriage
Maybe not YOUR "G-d's value," but I was raised in a religion which respects the right to choose - and supports equality for all Americans, gay or straight. Not everyone follows the same beliefs, even among those of us within the same religion. That is why our laws aren't based on religion, since nobody will ever agree on which one is "right."
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Old 06-16-2012, 11:35 PM
 
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I can! I can bring the scriptures that easily show that it is a sin in there, as long as the reader of said scriptures is intellectually-honest enough to admit that it's a correct assumption that sex is a part of marriage, at least at the start.
Please don't let this thread fall into a theology debate. There is a different forum for that.
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Old 06-16-2012, 11:36 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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I can! I can bring the scriptures that easily show that it is a sin in there, as long as the reader of said scriptures is intellectually-honest enough to admit that it's a correct assumption that sex is a part of marriage, at least at the start.
Can you quote them in Hebrew or Aramaic, please? Otherwise they're moot, at least to those of us who've read the original texts.
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Old 06-16-2012, 11:36 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Please don't let this thread fall into a theology debate. There is a different forum for that.
Yeah, that too.

I will stop with that line of discussion now, and suggest you all do the same!
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Old 06-16-2012, 11:36 PM
 
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Maybe not YOUR "G-d's value," but I was raised in a religion which respects the right to choose - and supports equality for all Americans, gay or straight. Not everyone follows the same beliefs, even among those of us within the same religion. That is why our laws aren't based on religion, since nobody will ever agree on which one is "right."
What religion exactly? How was man and woman created then?
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