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Old 06-19-2012, 11:49 PM
 
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Holy Trinity Catholic Church in Beaverdale, Des Moines, Iowa, was the kick off of Nuns on the Bus national tour to bring the message of hope to those folks who find themselves in the margins through NO fault of there own.


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Old 06-20-2012, 06:37 AM
 
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Holy Trinity Catholic Church in Beaverdale, Des Moines, Iowa, was the kick off of Nuns on the Bus national tour to bring the message of hope to those folks who find themselves in the margins through NO fault of there own.


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These are Democrat activists--no more or no less. The purpose of their bus tour is to attack the Republican budget--as if that plan has had any impact on the "poor." The nuns are singing from the same Democrat hymn book that rhapsodizes government handouts. But if the poor in this country are struggling--and they are--it's not for lack of government spending which has gone up obscenely under Obama. Rather it is because of Obama's failure to address the weak economy with policies that will improve it rather than hinder economic growth. If I could, I'd ask those nuns to consider this bit of political wisdom from an old Democrat pol--Joe Brennan, former governor of Maine--who said that the best welfare program is a job. Those nuns--if they truly care about the poor and are not merely political hacks in clerical garb--ought to be protesting Obama's jobless recovery.
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Old 06-20-2012, 06:38 AM
 
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These are Democrat activists--no more or no less. The purpose of their bus tour is to attack the Republican budget--as if that plan has had any impact on the "poor." The nuns are singing from the same Democrat hymn book that rhapsodizes government handouts. But if the poor in this country are struggling--and they are--it's not for lack of government spending which has gone up obscenely under Obama. Rather it is because of Obama's failure to address the weak economy with policies that will improve it rather than hinder economic growth. If I could, I'd ask those nuns to consider this bit of political wisdom from an old Democrat pol--Joe Brennan, former governor of Maine--who said that the best welfare program is a job. Those nuns--if they truly care about the poor and are not merely political hacks in clerical garb--ought to be protesting Obama's jobless recovery.

Yes, I heard Rush say as much this morning on his 'morning minute'.
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Old 06-20-2012, 07:45 AM
 
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holy trinity catholic church in beaverdale, des moines, iowa, was the kick off of nuns on the bus national tour to bring the message of hope to those folks who find themselves in the margins through no fault of there own.


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Awesome!! Tell it, Sisters!!!!
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Old 06-20-2012, 08:09 AM
 
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Awesome!! Tell it, Sisters!!!!
Tell what? That federal government handouts are the only hope the poor have? If that is their only hope they truly are scr*wed. And those nuns are truly deluded.
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Old 06-20-2012, 01:45 PM
 
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Tell what? That federal government handouts are the only hope the poor have? If that is their only hope they truly are scr*wed. And those nuns are truly deluded.
Frankly I doubt that there are few people who understand the needs of the poor better than nuns:

"The Vatican has issued a harsh statement claiming that American nuns do not follow their bishops’ thinking. That statement is profoundly true. Thank God, they don’t. Nuns have always had a different set of priorities from that of bishops. The bishops are interested in power. The nuns are interested in the powerless. Nuns have preserved Gospel values while bishops have been perverting them. The priests drove their own new cars when nuns rode the bus (always in pairs). The priests specialized in arrogance, the nuns in humility . . .

Now the Vatican says that nuns are too interested in “the social Gospel” (which is the Gospel), when they should be more interested in Gospel teachings about abortion and contraception (which do not exist). Nuns were quick to respond to the AIDS crisis and to the spiritual needs of gay people—which earned them an earlier rebuke from Rome. They were active in the civil rights movement. They ran soup kitchens."
Bullying the Nuns by Garry Wills | The New York Review of Books
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Old 06-26-2012, 05:23 PM
 
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The message of the Bible/Jesus is to help the poor...WILLINGLY!

This message is not to use an inefficient gov't entity to redistribute income from one person to another.

I shouldn't have to explain this to a nun...but obviously their political bias clouds their Biblical literacy.
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Old 06-26-2012, 06:41 PM
 
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Frankly I doubt that there are few people who understand the needs of the poor better than nuns:

"The Vatican has issued a harsh statement claiming that American nuns do not follow their bishops’ thinking. That statement is profoundly true. Thank God, they don’t. Nuns have always had a different set of priorities from that of bishops. The bishops are interested in power. The nuns are interested in the powerless. Nuns have preserved Gospel values while bishops have been perverting them. The priests drove their own new cars when nuns rode the bus (always in pairs). The priests specialized in arrogance, the nuns in humility . . .

Now the Vatican says that nuns are too interested in “the social Gospel” (which is the Gospel), when they should be more interested in Gospel teachings about abortion and contraception (which do not exist). Nuns were quick to respond to the AIDS crisis and to the spiritual needs of gay people—which earned them an earlier rebuke from Rome. They were active in the civil rights movement. They ran soup kitchens."
Bullying the Nuns by Garry Wills | The New York Review of Books
Nuns are not supposed to be engaged in political activism. That has been the position of the Catholic Church for a long time.

It is also incorrect that there are no Gospel teachings against abortion, etc. You must remember that the Catholic Church has never adhered to the Bible-only belief of Protestants, and thus uses tradition and other outside sources with the Bible. The Didache, dating to the first century, makes a very strong and clear argument against abortion, etc.
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Old 06-27-2012, 01:21 AM
 
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Frankly I doubt that there are few people who understand the needs of the poor better than nuns:

"The Vatican has issued a harsh statement claiming that American nuns do not follow their bishops’ thinking. That statement is profoundly true. Thank God, they don’t. Nuns have always had a different set of priorities from that of bishops. The bishops are interested in power. The nuns are interested in the powerless. Nuns have preserved Gospel values while bishops have been perverting them. The priests drove their own new cars when nuns rode the bus (always in pairs). The priests specialized in arrogance, the nuns in humility . . .

Now the Vatican says that nuns are too interested in “the social Gospel” (which is the Gospel), when they should be more interested in Gospel teachings about abortion and contraception (which do not exist). Nuns were quick to respond to the AIDS crisis and to the spiritual needs of gay people—which earned them an earlier rebuke from Rome. They were active in the civil rights movement. They ran soup kitchens."
Bullying the Nuns by Garry Wills | The New York Review of Books
Knowing the needs and knowing how to solve the problem are two different things. Government isn't the answer, government is the problem.
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Old 06-27-2012, 08:36 AM
 
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Frankly I doubt that there are few people who understand the needs of the poor better than nuns:

"The Vatican has issued a harsh statement claiming that American nuns do not follow their bishops’ thinking. That statement is profoundly true. Thank God, they don’t. Nuns have always had a different set of priorities from that of bishops. The bishops are interested in power. The nuns are interested in the powerless. Nuns have preserved Gospel values while bishops have been perverting them. The priests drove their own new cars when nuns rode the bus (always in pairs). The priests specialized in arrogance, the nuns in humility . . .

Now the Vatican says that nuns are too interested in “the social Gospel” (which is the Gospel), when they should be more interested in Gospel teachings about abortion and contraception (which do not exist). Nuns were quick to respond to the AIDS crisis and to the spiritual needs of gay people—which earned them an earlier rebuke from Rome. They were active in the civil rights movement. They ran soup kitchens."
Bullying the Nuns by Garry Wills | The New York Review of Books
Let me ask you this question: Would Blessed Mother Theresa be traveling with these nuns? Not likely. Because she knew that the Social Gospel means ministering to the poor, not condoning the sin in their lives. As important as ministering to the physical needs of the poor is, ministering to their spiritual well-being remains paramount. The Great Commission is about making disciples. The nuns seem to have forgotten that part of the Social Gospel.
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