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Old 06-21-2012, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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yeah, and we all know that the government, giving guns to drug dealers, sending them across the border, used to kill civilians along with law enforcement, lying to congress, doesnt matter right?

Just goes to show you Democrats will always find a reason to support this president, even when we're dealing with corruption.

I'd have far more respect for you guys if you would stop making excuses and just call it wrong.
Holder thought F&F was wrong, that is why he stopped it and set wheels in motion investigating it.
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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This trumped up issue has nothing to do with the agent that got killed. Issa doesn't even pretend that it does any more.
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Holder thought F&F was wrong, that is why he stopped it and set wheels in motion investigating it.
Now there's a new definition of spin. But as they say, tell the same lie long enough and the ignorant will accept it as the truth.
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:20 AM
 
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Holder thought F&F was wrong, that is why he stopped it and set wheels in motion investigating it.

Of course, after people were killed, they realized "oh crap" we better stop.
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Holder thought F&F was wrong, that is why he stopped it and set wheels in motion investigating it.
When it came to light, Holder told Congress he only heard about it "a few weeks ago".
He didn't stop anything and didn't tell Congress that.

Then, when memo's started surfacing Holder retracted what he said because he was made aware of it over 10 months ago, not the few weeks he said.

Over the course of the 18 months, Holder has retracted both his words and even memos.
He put himself into this position of mistrust.
And all the while he said he had nothing to hide.
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:21 AM
 
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Holder thought F&F was wrong, that is why he stopped it and set wheels in motion investigating it.
Bull crap.. If he stopped it, people wouldnt have died and Congress wouldnt be involved. If they stopped it, because they thought it was wrong, they wouldnt be withholding documents that indicate that from Congress. If they stopped it, then why did it start, because this isnt the same one being run under Bush. They claimed they didnt even know it was taking place.

You cant be that stupid.
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:22 AM
 
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This trumped up issue has nothing to do with the agent that got killed. Issa doesn't even pretend that it does any more.
Obviously you failed to listen to the hearings.

Perhaps you would like to explain how the AG's failure to provide unclassifed documents which were subpoenaed 8 months ago is a "trumped up" issue? What do you think would happen if the AG issued a subpoena to the average citizen and he/she failed to comply for 8 months?
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:25 AM
 
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I had to flip over to MSNBC to see how they were treating it. There was a very little conversation about it and what conversation happened seemed to imply racism was at play. Not really surprised by this tactic.

I had to wonder about racism myself. Why would you allow guns to run into Mexico? Surely you would realize they would be killing Mexican nationals. That's the only racism I can see.

For the very people that crow about Arizona laws targeting Mexicans I don't see how that can't draw the same conclusion here. Unless they really don't give a crap about Mexicans and are just using them as tools.
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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I had to wonder about racism myself. Why would you allow guns to run into Mexico? Surely you would realize they would be killing Mexican nationals. That's the only racism I can see.

For the very people that crow about Arizona laws targeting Mexicans I don't see how that can't draw the same conclusion here. Unless they really don't give a crap about Mexicans and are just using them as tools.
Since this was done without the Mexican government's involvement or knowledge, I can see where one could make that inference.
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Not where I want to be
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Obviously you failed to listen to the hearings.

Perhaps you would like to explain how the AG's failure to provide unclassifed documents which were subpoenaed 8 months ago is a "trumped up" issue? What do you think would happen if the AG issued a subpoena to the average citizen and he/she failed to comply for 8 months?
You bet our azzes would be in jail PRONTO!!!!!!

Now that the cat's out of the bag, I wouldn't be surprised to see Mexico sue the US government now. Reckless endangerment.
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