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Old 06-21-2012, 10:04 AM
 
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BTW, I'm all for Obama being forced to release the information.

Not only do I think Espy is too broad a ruling, I know damn well he's doing it for political reasons, not some legal principles.

But these CD Obama haters are the last ones to go around calling people hypocrites.

Not a single one of them could point to a post of their taking Bush to task for any of his law breaking.

It's sickening how twisted their mentality is. Bitter white, elderly, men projecting their frustration over their failures in life on some demonized Democratic President.
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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In particular, this is what SCOTUS ruled in Espy about who get Executive Privelege

the privilege should apply only to communications authored or solicited and received by those members of an immediate White House advisor’s staff who have broad and significant responsibility for investigation and formulating the advice to be given the President on the particular matter to which the communications relate. Only communications at that level are close enough to the President to be revelatory of his deliberations or to pose a risk to the candor of his advisers.

Workingclasshero get's his legal advice from Hannity.....LOL
Your own quote doesn't help you in your argument. Holder, as DOJ, is not considered an immediate member of the White House's advisor staff. No other Cabinet member would enjoy that either. Advisor staff would include people like Valerie Jarrett, David Axlerod, etc, etc. That's always been the interpretation I understand and from all appearances of the opinions I've seen from legal experts, that's their understanding as well.

ETA: I think there are historical precendents of Executive Privilege that has been used incorrectly but just weren't challenged. After all, unless it's challenged then it is held up. My opinion, based on my understanding and other legal opinions, is that EP is reserved for those matters that substanially involve close WH adviors or POTUS himself in matters of either military, national security, or diplomacy.
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:05 AM
 
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So finding out the truth about a government program that KILLED a Border Patrol agent is a witch hunt? Is this the new race card? The level that liberals will stoop to defend the piece of crap in the WH is astounding.

Justice for Trayvon, but none for Brian Terry. Truly, skewed priorities.........
Don't forget the over 200 dead Mexican Citizens killed by guns through Fast and Furious.....that number is probably and horrifically climbing and will continue to do so.
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:05 AM
 
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Holder thought F&F was wrong, that is why he stopped it and set wheels in motion investigating it.
Wheels in motion? It's been a freaking year. And the only reason he's dealing with it is because of Issa.

Liberals, the ultimate revisionist historians.
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Obama doesn't care in the least about his "brudder". He's doing desperate last ditch CYA.
When your on the run you only have to be faster than 1 guy!!!! How long before Holder gets thrown under the bus or "takes one for the team"
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:09 AM
 
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holder thought f&f was wrong, that is why he stopped it and set wheels in motion investigating it.
omg.
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:12 AM
 
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Obama administration on Gun Running

From 2009:


Obama Orders Launched Fast and Furious - YouTube


Holder on Gun Running in 2009 - YouTube
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:14 AM
 
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Pelosi: Holder contempt vote about voter suppression, not Fast and Furious | WashingtonExaminer.com

The Wicked Witch of the West proves she is more deranged and stupid than we thought. The dragon lady is claiming that the contempt vote has to do with voter suppression. God have mercy on our country, specifically those who actually vote for someone us dumb as she is.
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:18 AM
 
Location: On Top
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Pelosi: Holder contempt vote about voter suppression, not Fast and Furious | WashingtonExaminer.com

The Wicked Witch of the West proves she is more deranged and stupid than we thought. The dragon lady is claiming that the contempt vote has to do with voter suppression. God have mercy on our country, specifically those who actually vote for someone us dumb as she is.
She might have a point, I wouldn't put anything past the stinking republicans.
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:20 AM
 
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She might have a point, I wouldn't put anything past the stinking republicans.
Please connect the dots. How does stopping guns from going to Mexico, equal voter suppression..
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