Since voting fraud has involved only absentee voting, GOP is going after non-absentee voting...

[Tarzanman]

Originally Posted by Mircea

Other countries use IDs I don't know why the US doesn't.

Because there is no such thing as a state-issued or federal issued free ID card. The absence of which makes the ID requirement a defacto poll tax.

I'd be all for voter-ID if they started giving out free ID cards to US citizens who applied for them... but it won't ever happen because the GOP does not want to lose their best tool for voter suppression.

I don't know if you've ever been broke, but there are a lot of people out there who have to plan ahead and budget around getting a driver's license and/or passport.

Not being able to afford a car means that you can't test for a driver's license and passport cards start at ~$70. That is almost two days worth of work to a lot of poor folks.

[pnwmdk]

Originally Posted by JoeP

In many states, they want to require an id to stop things from happening that are not happening anyway (read: trim off a few poor voters).



Classic GOP.

Re: Title

100% false.

[BOS2IAD]

Originally Posted by Tarzanman

Because there is no such thing as a state-issued or federal issued free ID card. The absence of which makes the ID requirement a defacto poll tax.

I'd be all for voter-ID if they started giving out free ID cards to US citizens who applied for them... but it won't ever happen because the GOP does not want to lose their best tool for voter suppression.

I don't know if you've ever been broke, but there are a lot of people out there who have to plan ahead and budget around getting a driver's license and/or passport.

Not being able to afford a car means that you can't test for a driver's license and passport cards start at ~$70. That is almost two days worth of work to a lot of poor folks.

What tripe. There are programs for those who don't have the money to get a state-issued ID. Look it up.

I know people who didn't own a car but still got drivers licenses. They used either a driving school's car or a family member's car to take the road test.

What you're basically saying is that you are against any form of voter ID. Is your objection to it because illegals and dead people won't be able to vote?

[Tarzanman]

Originally Posted by BOS2IAD

What tripe. There are programs for those who don't have the money to get a state-issued ID. Look it up.

I know people who didn't own a car but still got drivers licenses. They used either a driving school's car or a family member's car to take the road test.

What you're basically saying is that you are against any form of voter ID. Is your objection to it because illegals and dead people won't be able to vote?

I stand corrected regarding the VoterID cards in this state, but the fact that I as a college educated voter with two endorsements on my driver's license, that pays a lot of attention to current events had not ever heard of this state program is evidence that it needs to be marketed and expanded.

The main issue with current voter ID is the cost and the time involved. Its easier to buy a gun in this state than it is to vote.

Why doesn't it bother you that the same political party that has been gerrymandering every district they control is also actively trying to suppress the right of the people to vote? How can you not see that their efforts are deliberately intended to limit the *only* tool that ordinary citizens in this country have to express their opinion with how they are governed?

[GregW]

I have to present an "acceptable" picture ID card as well as announce my name and address to the poll worker before I vote. I have no problem with the latter but resent the former. I am who I say I am and expect my word as a citizen to be accepted.

Any cost to a prospective voter before they can vote is a POLL TAX and antithetical to the concept of "one person one vote". It is just a tool to suppress the vote of the poor as if the poor's inability to buy the candidates' time was not enough.