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Old 06-20-2012, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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Bid to kill EPA coal plant regulations thwarted in Senate - The Hill's E2-Wire

The idea of shutting coal plants because they pollute too much is assinine. We will have a massive shortage of electricity and tremendous increase in electric costs. Why not build new natural gas plants or nuclear plants first? Or why not build better scrubbers for the coal? Does Obama want us back in the stone age without electricity?
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Old 06-20-2012, 07:12 PM
 
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Bid to kill EPA coal plant regulations thwarted in Senate - The Hill's E2-Wire

The idea of shutting coal plants because they pollute too much is assinine. We will have a massive shortage of electricity and tremendous increase in electric costs. Why not build new natural gas plants or nuclear plants first? Or why not build better scrubbers for the coal? Does Obama want us back in the stone age without electricity?
To distort the energy market and create an urgency for his agenda that will make it easier to foist on the public.
Yes, progressives would have us back in caves lit with candles if they had their way.
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Old 06-20-2012, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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To make the Ultra-leftist happy. He might as well kiss the votes from coal producing states good-bye.
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Old 06-20-2012, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Bid to kill EPA coal plant regulations thwarted in Senate - The Hill's E2-Wire

The idea of shutting coal plants because they pollute too much is assinine. We will have a massive shortage of electricity and tremendous increase in electric costs. Why not build new natural gas plants or nuclear plants first? Or why not build better scrubbers for the coal? Does Obama want us back in the stone age without electricity?
Gentlemen, put on your tin foil hats.

It's a kinder, gentler Agenda 21 in a nutshell.

Middle class Americans use too much stuff and this sheep pasture is looking a bit rough... but since there is no new pasture to move everyone to and just killing the surplus "sheep" leads to annoying unpleasantries like revolutions and separating the heads of elites from their bodies, they are gonna slow us down by making us poorer, so we are forced to cut back on our resource usage as a large group.

One successful strategy for doing just that is by artificially jacking up the prices for energy. Unlike oil, there is no shortage or diminishing supply whatsoever for coal, and the technology already exists to extract and burn it relatively cleanly. Nor is coal found mostly in dangerous war zones or remote wilderness areas; we are sitting on uncounted billions of tons right here in America.

There is no good reason for electricity to not be dirt cheap, other than choking off growth to take pressures off more sensitive resources like arable land, clean water, timber, various minerals and metals that ARE getting more and more difficult to find.

Anyway, the first attempt to make Green Living "cool and trendy" has mostly failed to produce any slowdown in resource depletion, so now our shepherds are using a more "hand's on" approach.

I wouldn't have such a problem with "green living" and shrinking my carbon footprint... but I don't see why I should be living in a one room New Urbanist closet apartment, drinking my recycled pee and and driving a Smart Car for Mama Earth when the average elite who forces the idea down our throats in the first place sees fit to plop 5-6 40,000 sq foot garagemajals around the country to take turns living in, air condition and heat them 24-7 even when nobody's home, fill all the swimming pools and water a lush 20 acre lawn and fantasy garden at each with culinary water, jet to them in private planes that burn more gas per trip than I'll use in a year and run down to the 7-11 (I mean the "Le beverage fantastique!") for a soda in one of their 20 Rolls Royce tanks that measures fuel economy in gallons per mile.

Sumptin' ain't right here folks!

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Old 06-20-2012, 07:49 PM
 
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Many of them are barely being used right now. There were a few shut down along the Ohio River and basically these were barely being used. As it is, despite the claims of woe and despair over the warmer weather the other power plants are still way down on output because of the lousy economy.
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Old 06-20-2012, 08:03 PM
 
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They want them shut down so they can ride in their limos and jets. Also live off your tax money. Walk and ride your bikes and shut up.
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Old 06-20-2012, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Nobody is going to force coal fired plants to shut down. That will be a decision made BY THE OPERATORS, not the EPA. If they are shut down, it'll be because the operators don't want to spend the money to clean up their emissions.
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Old 06-20-2012, 08:24 PM
 
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Don't drag common sense into things here. It's much better when a thread is just thoughtless whining by a bunch of partisan children.
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Old 06-20-2012, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Nobody is going to force coal fired plants to shut down. That will be a decision made BY THE OPERATORS, not the EPA. If they are shut down, it'll be because the operators don't want to spend the money to clean up their emissions.
By setting a virtually impossible emissions standard for coal plants to meet, they are forcing coal plants to shut down.
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Old 06-20-2012, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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Many of them are barely being used right now. There were a few shut down along the Ohio River and basically these were barely being used. As it is, despite the claims of woe and despair over the warmer weather the other power plants are still way down on output because of the lousy economy.
They may have to shut down 150 of them. No way the slow economy will make up for that loss of power.
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