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Old 06-22-2012, 07:57 PM
 
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If people today want to stand their ground with a 9lbs., 5ft. long, one-round, slow-to-reload, low accuracy musket, I don't have a problem with that.
are you suggesting that if the AK47 or the M16 was available in colonial times that the revolution would never have happened?
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Old 06-22-2012, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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are you suggesting that if the AK47 or the M16 was available in colonial times that the revolution would never have happened?
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:01 PM
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Standing your ground is fine. Stalking someone and causing a confrontation, then murdering the guy *you* instigated the altercation with is not.

Why is this so hard to understand?
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:08 PM
 
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slap your head all you want, all you will do is bruise your forehead. apparently you have no answer to the question.
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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slap your head all you want, all you will do is bruise your forehead. apparently you have no answer to the question.
Emoticons function as a visual representation of feeling, not necessarily physicality.

And your question has zero to do with the topic of the thread. Perhaps it would be interesting to those in the History forum. Or is there a science fiction forum. Perhaps a time-machine reenactment of the revolutionary war is in order?

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Old 06-22-2012, 08:19 PM
 
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i am with my family on vacation in massachusetts now, typping this on a laptop computer in a motel. Brought them to lexington, ma yesterday, and stopped at the battle green, where colonists fired shots at the british troops who had come to their town to take away their guns.

Found this stone on the green, about 75 yards from the bigger memorial. It contains the orders given by the american captain of the farmers who showed up to try to resist the then-finest, most powerful army in the world.



When i can get the photo i took myself of the stone, i'll post it here. But this is exactly what was there.

"stand your ground" is about as american as it gets.
"Don't Fire Until Fired Upon".....
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:32 PM
 
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I think the SYG laws are fantastic. However, just because Zimmerman is using that as his defense doesn't necessarily mean that is what actually happened. That has to be proved and I haven't seen all the evidence. I don't think that SYG means I'll just follow this guy all over the place for awhile and if I get pounced on I will SMG. I still tend to think they were both acting like little punks, we shall see when it goes to court.
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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I am with my family on vacation in Massachusetts now, typping this on a laptop computer in a motel. Brought them to Lexington, MA yesterday, and stopped at the Battle Green, where colonists fired shots at the British troops who had come to their town to take away their guns.

Found this stone on the Green, about 75 yards from the bigger memorial. It contains the orders given by the American captain of the farmers who showed up to try to resist the then-finest, most powerful army in the world.



When I can get the photo I took myself of the stone, I'll post it here. But this is exactly what was there.

"Stand your ground" is about as American as it gets.

THIS IS RIDICULOUS AND THESE LAWS ARE AS UNAMERICAN AS THEY GET. The BILL OF RIGHTS goes into much detail that an American can not be subjected to anyone acting as a police, Judge and jury and executioner subjecting a citizen to lethal force with out a trial by his peers . We used to call this a crime called murder which is the ultimate denigration of a citizens rights period. You don't seem to grasp that the reason those people were fighting on the bridge in Lexington was the force they were opposing believed this very thing and felt that as the King's representatives they didn't have to bother with a trial and could conclude that any British subject could be found in rebellion could be executed at that spot immediately. This is not American but very British the same British which are my ancestors! .
Now the British have evolved over the last several centuries and Britain even has a Bill of Rights which was required when Britian joined the European Union. On the other hand we seem to be hell bent on backsliding to a world that civilization left behind but we have our peers like Chins, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Mr Putin's Russia.
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:49 PM
 
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Better tried by twelve that carried by six.
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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are you suggesting that if the AK47 or the M16 was available in colonial times that the revolution would never have happened?


What this person also seems to be oblivious the fact Britain was entering into the Industrial Age with the ablity ability to make more modern guns in quanity which they did and endered up controlling 1/5th of the world and 1/3 of its people. The largest empire in human history and quite an achievement for a nation with less than 30 million people living in a nation about the same size as New England!
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