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View Poll Results: Should the U.S. government ban wearing burqa/niqab in public?
Yes, it should be banned in all public places! 53 33.76%
Yeah, but only in federal/state buildings, airports, etc. 17 10.83%
No, they should be allowed to wear it 87 55.41%
Voters: 157. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-22-2012, 10:10 PM
 
Location: White House, TN
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This isn't Afghanistan, it's the USA. All that law would do is create mass protests. Then there'd be a real problem.
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Old 06-23-2012, 12:13 AM
 
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I know that sounds prejudiced and extreme. I am neither, but it is too easy, in today's troubled times, for terrorists to use such clothing as a disguise. It is illegal, in New York, to wear a mask while walking on the street.

This happened in Afghanistan by the Taliban.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/23/wo...it_ae_20120622

. . . what appeared to be seven Afghan women in characteristic head-to-toe blue burqas piled out (of a minivan).

Throwing off the burqas, the women turned out to be male insurgents, bristling with weapons and wearing bulky suicide vests packed with explosives. They raced into the hotel . . .


This just seems like the obvious thing to do by bad people. Why do we take such chances?

These people stormed into a hotel, went into the restaurant, and went table to table, shooting every male. The article implies that they were looking for foreign guests and prostitutes, but found none, although people were drinking alcohol. I

God help the families of these dead men.
Such mindless destruction, such evil.
No thanks.

Now what REALLY needs to be outlawed is men wearing flip flops in public and people over 25 years old wearing Abercrombie or Hollister. Skinny jeans shouldn't be too far being the banning of those things.

Those are clothing bans I can live with.
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Old 06-23-2012, 12:18 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I know that sounds prejudiced and extreme.
Yes it does.

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I am neither
Yes you are, if we are to take your thread premise seriously.
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Old 06-23-2012, 12:30 AM
 
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Burka's are just another way to keep the little lady in line, it's oppression. However, the government can't tell people what to wear.
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Old 06-23-2012, 01:03 AM
 
Location: central Oregon
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Burka's are just another way to keep the little lady in line, it's oppression. However, the government can't tell people what to wear.
I totally agree with both your statements.

As a woman I am offended by woman wearing burka's in our country for one reason: woman in our country were once the property of men; we fought for - and won - the right to be our own person. Whenever I see a woman wearing the full outfit I want to scream THIS IS AMERICA. To me that full covering of the body and head tells me she is under the control of another person. It offends me that we (again - in the name of religion) allow men to treat woman as property in the United States.

Although it highly offends me, I would never tell someone what to wear or what not to wear. I can be mad without being intrusive. Although I would love to see a lot of clothes (saggy baggy pants) disappear, it is neither my business nor the business of the government.
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Old 06-23-2012, 01:33 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I know that sounds prejudiced and extreme. I am neither, but it is too easy, in today's troubled times, for terrorists to use such clothing as a disguise. It is illegal, in New York, to wear a mask while walking on the street.

This happened in Afghanistan by the Taliban.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/23/wo...it_ae_20120622

. . . what appeared to be seven Afghan women in characteristic head-to-toe blue burqas piled out (of a minivan).

Throwing off the burqas, the women turned out to be male insurgents, bristling with weapons and wearing bulky suicide vests packed with explosives. They raced into the hotel . . .


This just seems like the obvious thing to do by bad people. Why do we take such chances?

These people stormed into a hotel, went into the restaurant, and went table to table, shooting every male. The article implies that they were looking for foreign guests and prostitutes, but found none, although people were drinking alcohol.

God help the families of these dead men.
Such mindless destruction, such evil.
Don't be ridiculous. They can hide a bomb and weapons just as easily under any variety of Western-style clothing. If a terrorist or three are going to plot the attack of some American public venue, the're not going to be so stupid as to wear burqas. It's not the ones who look like your stereotypical dude on a camel in the desert that you need to worry about.
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Old 06-23-2012, 01:35 AM
 
Location: The Land Mass Between NOLA and Mobile, AL
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No thanks.

Now what REALLY needs to be outlawed is men wearing flip flops in public and people over 25 years old wearing Abercrombie or Hollister. Skinny jeans shouldn't be too far being the banning of those things.

Those are clothing bans I can live with.
Can we also agree that brightly-colored crocs worn by any human over the age of ten should be deemed an abomination against all things holy and thus banned as an insult to shoes given their unnatural plasticine nature that doesn't allow the wearer to sense normal road hazards? (Seriously, and I'm not kidding, these things have caused accidents among older children and adults on escalators--Google it). Women over 35 should also really stop wearing mini-skirts for propriety's sake, and we should probably also limit the amount of time white people spend leatherizing their skin in tanning booths because that brings on the serious fug.

Getting back to the subject of burkas, though, I have several summer maxi-dresses that tend to billow out from my slender frame and thus would allow me to conceal several weapons as well as some ammo quite easily, especially if I secured such materiel close to my legs. Once I would couple such outfits with some flowing summer cardigans to ward off cool sea breezes while sporting a pretty scarf or two, it's possible that I could have an entire flotilla somewhere under there. Now that I think about it, it is clear that all flowy garments must be done away with--religious freedom be dammed
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Old 06-23-2012, 01:41 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Allowing burqas to be outlawed is less offensive to the Constitution than requiring Catholic institutions to provide birth control.
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Old 06-23-2012, 01:46 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Allowing burqas to be outlawed is less offensive to the Constitution than requiring Catholic institutions to provide birth control.
Yet it's still offensive nonetheless.

Women wearing burkas or whatever else is protected by their religion and we live in a country where all religions are protected by the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. Freedom of religion as we like to call it.

I get your point, but just raising a counterpoint is all.
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Old 06-23-2012, 03:22 AM
 
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None yet, but, give it some time. I think the burqua must hide an awful lot of ugle.
So do computer moniters.
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