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Old 06-26-2012, 07:47 PM
 
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Both Obama and Clinton came out and endorsed Silvestre Reyes - a Congressman of many years and he was defeated.
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Exclamation Charlie Rangel Primary: New York Congressman Wins Democratic House Nomination

Looks like Rangel didn't need Obama's endorsement...

Charlie Rangel Primary: New York Congressman Wins Democratic House Nomination
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:49 PM
 
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Even if I agree with their policies, noone should spend anywhere near 41 years in Congress.
Yeah no kidding. After 10 or 15 years at the same job it's time to go.
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Old 06-27-2012, 12:03 AM
 
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Both Obama and Clinton came out and endorsed Silvestre Reyes - a Congressman of many years and he was defeated.

With every redistricting, there are always a number of Congressmen who get put in the same (new) district to fight it out in a single-elimination match. While individual personalities and track records are important, it usually helps a lot if more of your district contains more of your base than your opponent's base, and your base has higher turnout than your opponents base. Ten years ago, John Dingell was redistricted into a primary with a Congresswoman from a (formerly) adjacent district. Dingell was the bigger fish, and had more of his base in the new district. Rangel certainly was the bigger fish here

Reyes had, as you might expect, a solid Hispanic base of Puerto Ricans, Dominicans and other Central Americans who are numerous in the district. But these groups traditionally have not had strong voter turnout in primary elections.

Rangel was first elected in 1970, after defeating another big fish, Adam Clayton Powell Jr, in that year's primary. Love him or hate him, I would never underestimate Charlie Rangel in an election.
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:39 AM
 
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Looks like Rangel didn't need Obama's endorsement...

Charlie Rangel Primary: New York Congressman Wins Democratic House Nomination

I didnt think he would! It's HARLEM after all. My point is the President showing his true colors even when dealing with his own! He threw Rangel under that Greyhound faster than you could blink. Now.....how will Rangel deal with Obama?
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:45 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Looks like Rangel didn't need Obama's endorsement...

Charlie Rangel Primary: New York Congressman Wins Democratic House Nomination


You make it sound as if he won his seat back...

Anthony Weiner's seat is being held by a Democrat?
How about Uncle Teddy's seat in Massachusetts?


He is going to have a very hard time, running against the Moderate Progressive Republican, he is facing.
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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I didnt think he would! It's HARLEM after all. My point is the President showing his true colors even when dealing with his own! He threw Rangel under that Greyhound faster than you could blink. Now.....how will Rangel deal with Obama?
"Threw him under the bus?" Really?
The man was censured for tax evasion. It is a wonder he isn't in jail.

I don't fault the president one iota for not showing support for Rangel and it is totally beyond me how anyone would expect that he would or should.
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Texas
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"Threw him under the bus?" Really?
The man was censured for tax evasion. It is a wonder he isn't in jail.

I don't fault the president one iota for not showing support for Rangel and it is totally beyond me how anyone would expect that he would or should.

Ding! Ding! Ding! Winner!!!

I mean it would be ludicrous to be seen or supporting Rangel. It's not like Republican's do...just b/c they've got a "R" behind their name. But also at least President Obama didn't give ol' Charlie a 'heck of a job' endorsement, like W did to Brownie. Now that was funny.
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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You make it sound as if he won his seat back...

Anthony Weiner's seat is being held by a Democrat?
How about Uncle Teddy's seat in Massachusetts?


He is going to have a very hard time, running against the Moderate Progressive Republican, he is facing.
You don't know the district. It ALWAYS goes Democratic, always. To think Rangel is "going to have a very hard time" is GOP wishful thinking. I don't the seat has gone Republican since Lincoln.

On the theme of this thread, it's rare for a president to endorse particular House members unless they feel that they are in trouble of losing the seat to the GOP. In this case, that was never going to be the case.
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Even if I agree with their policies, noone should spend anywhere near 41 years in Congress.
Fortunately, we have elections to settle those matters. If the voters have confidence in a legislator, it's their decision.
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Old 06-27-2012, 08:01 AM
 
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[quote=freemkt;24920348]With every redistricting, there are always a number of Congressmen who get put in the same (new) district to fight it out in a single-elimination match. While individual personalities and track records are important, it usually helps a lot if more of your district contains more of your base than your opponent's base, and your base has higher turnout than your opponents base. Ten years ago, John Dingell was redistricted into a primary with a Congresswoman from a (formerly) adjacent district. Dingell was the bigger fish, and had more of his base in the new district. Rangel certainly was the bigger fish here

Reyes had, as you might expect, a solid Hispanic base of Puerto Ricans, Dominicans and other Central Americans who are numerous in the district. But these groups traditionally have not had strong voter turnout in primary elections.

Rangel was first elected in 1970, after defeating another big fish, Adam Clayton Powell Jr, in that year's primary. Love him or hate him, I would never underestimate Charlie Rangel in an election.[/quote]

No......never under estimate the stupidity of the black liberal voter.


Rangel Caught With Hand In Cookie Jar - Charlie Rangel - Fox Nation


Rep. Charlie Rangel Fined $23K For Using Rent-Stabilized Harlem Digs As Campaign HQ: UPDATED | New York Daily News


He actually USED APARTMENTS THAT POOR PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE BEEN LIVING IN< FOR HIS CAMPAIGN!!! And even that wasn't enuff to throw him out???

What is wrong with my people???

If this was any other place in America, he'd be out. Harlem --------smh
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