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Old 06-25-2012, 11:52 PM
 
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its the liberals that are the joke

only the fascist liberals would use a chart (poll) to make MAJOR cuts in ONE program

its the tax and spend liberals that have killed the middleclass
Notice how Democrats all stood around saying, just wait till the Obama debt commission report, then we'll see serious action.. And when the report came out, not even Obama pushed it forward, and Democrats, not a peep from them..

If they were serious about cutting the deficit, that would be a great place to start, but they arent. They all stand around blaming the GOP for Democrats refusal to push for their own plan..
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Old 06-25-2012, 11:57 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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I dont give a rats ass who you voted for, if you say somethign dumb like Republicans not wanting fiscal responsibility, then I'll call you out on it.

Democrats took over Congress due to the economy and debt in 2007, or dont you remember just 5 years ago?
And what happened between 2001-2006?
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:00 AM
 
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Google doesnt work for you? I dont follow the private sector debt totals daily.

What difference does it make if its $14T, or $15T for the sake of this conversation?
You make the argument, you bring the proof. Still waiting for proper links in this thread and another.
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:08 AM
 
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And what happened between 2001-2006?
what happened....lets see the republicans and democrats had a tie in the senate...and the neo-con (liberal in southern baptist clothing) bush spent liike a drunken liberals on crack

and what happend in 2007-2010...the liberals with a super majority,,, spent like there was no tomorrow\\\
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:11 AM
 
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So let me ask you this.... what is the debt of the private sector?
the government debt is currently at nearly 16 trillion (15.6 trillion) and the unfunded liabilities debt is nearly 60 trillion


as to the private sector.....not sure...I know GM still owes the taxpayers a bunch of billions
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:22 AM
 
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what happened....lets see the republicans and democrats had a tie in the senate...and the neo-con (liberal in southern baptist clothing) bush spent liike a drunken liberals on crack

and what happend in 2007-2010...the liberals with a super majority,,, spent like there was no tomorrow\\\
So Republicans posing as Republicans spent like drunken liberals on crack and now we are supposed to believe these Republicans who call themselves Republicans will not do the same.........
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:23 AM
 
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When will liberals learn that to cut the deficits, you grow the economy, not increase spending, or taxes.. ?
So how ya planning to grow the economy? What are your specific programs?
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:26 AM
 
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So Republicans posing as Republicans spent like drunken liberals on crack and now we are supposed to believe these Republicans who call themselves Republicans will not do the same.........
well if you are too ignorant to understand the difference between a democrat and a liberal (two different entities)...just like there is a difference between a conservative and a republican

...and a neo con is still a progressive liberal




our debt..and our problems stem from the fascist liberal policies

you think the entire down fall happened in 2001-2009????


let this INFORM you, these problems stem from: 1993, 1995, and 1999 and you can thank the liberals for it, and most of it goes back to the clinton era. why because ECONOMICS run in 10(+/-4) year CYCLES and what we are facing NOW is in DIRECT RELATION to what happened back in the 90's

1993 NAFTA-originally pushed by Brezezenki and his puppet carter,,moved along by reagan----negotiated by another brezezenki puppet bush1--- passed in 1993 by the democrat controlled congress, pushed by clinton, signed by clinton-inceased with CAFTA by bush2--the consequence ...... 60+ million HIGH PAYING jobs have been lost, 2 trillion worth of debt from the lost wages.(and obamy wants to increase it too,,,hmmm)

1995 clinton (through his chief of HUD (Henry Cisneros and later his second chief andrew coumo)) eased the rules on obtaining mortgages allowing more 'exotic' mortgages and 'no-doc/low doc' mortgages-----the consequence ......housing SKYROCKETED causing low inventories causing a 'not normal' increase in home prices, sellers got greedy, buyers got even greedier (looking to PROFIT in a skyrocketing market by flipping) and bought THINKING that prices would still increase and their ADJUSTABLE mortgage would pay it self off in MINIMUMAL years...EVEN THOUGH THESE INCREASES IN HOME VALUES WERE TOTALLY UNHEARD OF, AND MORTGAGE RATES WERE AT 40 YEAR LOWS( what did they think an adjustable mortgage gotten at 40 year lows would do in the term(3 months-3years) when it adjusted...of course it would go up, their CONTRACT even said after the term it would be 6% PLUS PRIME)))
For many potential homebuyers, the lack of cash available to accumulate the required downpayment and closing costs is the major impediment to purchasing a home. Other households do not have sufficient available income to to make the monthly payments on mortgages financed at market interest rates for standard loan terms. Financing strategies, fueled by the creativity and resources of the private and public sectors, should address both of these financial barriers to homeownership."
The above is the start of the mortgage meltdon: Clinton's National Homeownership Strategy

1996 clinton signed The Telecommunications Act of 1996 (The Act was claimed to foster competition. Instead, it allowed industry consolidation whose actions reduced the number of major media companies from around 30 in 1993 to 10 in 1996, and reducing the 10 in 1996 to 6 in 2005.) causing MONOPOLIES, which can RAISE PRICES
1998 clinton does not allow drilling for OUR OWN OIL..the liberals say 'it will take ten years before we seee the oil'...guess what its been ten years
1999 Clinton DEREGULATES the banking industry
2000 clinton signs the China trade bill
2000 clinton signs the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000..(which paves the way for ENRON)
2000/1 clinton pushes to get china into the world bank
2003/4/5 republicans try to reighn in fanny and freddie...the liberal opposition leaders (barney frank and cris Dodd) say "there is nothing wrong with fanny/freddy..its a witch hunt"........boy does barney have egg on his face now

1965 liberals push medicare....say it will only cost 10 billion by 1995....in 1995 it cost 100 billion...in 2010 it cost 500 billion AND CLIMBING



it aint the gop.....its the liberals that have cost us
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:27 AM
 
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and clinton/newt NEVER had a surplus

what surplus

Fiscal
Year........ YearEnding.... ..National Debt........Annual budget Deficit

FY1994..... 09/30/1994.... $4.192749 trillion...... $281.26 billion
FY1995..... 09/29/1995.... $4.973982 trillion...... $281.23 billion
FY1996..... 09/30/1996.... $5.224810 trillion...... $250.83 billion
FY1997..... 09/30/1997.... $5.413146 trillion...... $188.34 billion
FY1998..... 09/30/1998.... $5.526193 trillion...... $113.05 billion
FY1999..... 09/30/1999.... $5.656270 trillion...... $130.08 billion
FY2000..... 09/29/2000.... $5.674178 trillion...... $17.91 billion
FY2001..... 09/28/2001.... $5.877463 trillion...... $133.29 billion




so here is the question


IF there was a surplus.for 2-3-4 years...........why did the DEBT go from 3.7 trillion to 5.87 trillion????????????????????????
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:35 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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the government debt is currently at nearly 16 trillion (15.6 trillion) and the unfunded liabilities debt is nearly 60 trillion


as to the private sector.....not sure...I know GM still owes the taxpayers a bunch of billions
So you have no idea about the private sector.... whether or not we should be more concerned or not.
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