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Some people clearly have difficulty with the use of the word 'heterosexual' or 'homosexual' in this topic and confuse sexual acts with children who have no secondary sexual characteristics, with sexual orientation towards adults.
Researchers themselves understand that when they use the term 'homosexual' pedophile or 'heterosexual' pedophile they are referring to the fact that the perpetrator and the victim are of the same gender or opposite gender, NOT the sexual orientation of the perpetrator.
Pedophilic child molestors often don't even have an adult sexual orientation. Some have preferences for children of a particular gender, some don't. But they are attracted to the AGE, innocence, and vulnerability of a child much more than the gender. They are often repulsed by the secondary sexual characteristics of adults.
You're delusional.
What do secondary sexual characteristics have to do with same sex behavior?
As if grown men who diddle little boys are not homosexuals.
Are two boys who play sexually together having heterosexual oriented play or homosexual oriented play?
Is an adult male who sexually molests a boy having heterosexual play or homosexual play?
Just because you don't like pedophile same sex behavior to be labeled as homosexual doesn't mean it isn't true.
If an adult homosexual molests a child he's engaging in same sex behavior.
What do secondary sexual characteristics have to do with same sex behavior?
As if grown men who diddle little boys are not homosexuals.
Are two boys who play sexually together having heterosexual oriented play or homosexual oriented play?
Is an adult male who sexually molests a boy having heterosexual play or homosexual play?
Just because you don't like pedophile same sex behavior to be labeled as homosexual doesn't mean it isn't true.
If an adult homosexual molests a child he's engaging in same sex behavior.
Pay attention, these questions have been answered:
The sexual orientation of heterosexual means you are attracted to ADULT secondary sex characteristics of the opposite sex. Homosexual means you are attracted to ADULT secondary sex characteristics of the same sex.
Pedophila means you are attracted to children.
"Homosexual" and "Heterosexual" are DISTINCT from PEDOPHILIA.
Male pedophiles who have attraction to little boys tend to have ZERO interest in other grown, big, hairy, MEN... just as heterosexual pedophiles tend to have ZERO interest in WOMEN. It is probably possible that you will find someone who can have attraction to both adults AND children... but the reliable sources do not indicate a statistically greater incidence of gay men with attraction to adults AND children vs. straight men with attraction to adults AND children.
In context, a "homosexual pedophilic" act simply means the act is between an adult and a child of the same sex. A "heterosexual pedophilic" act is an act between an adult and a child of the opposite sex.
Jaymax said it perfectly: Heterosexual men: Do you refrain from sex with little boys because they are the same sex as you, and you are not gay, or because you are not attracted to children?
I did not read the article. I just reply that it seems the OP is reflecting a group in a bad light. Why? I will not make a guess in the intent of the OP.
However, I can say that I can google lots of cases of straight people doing just the same. Also, being gay does not mean the person is also a pedophile. They different. Take care.
How is it 'childish name calling' saying people are bigoted against gay people, when they have proven they are?
Do you have anything useful to add to the discussion?
How about Homobigot? nice try at backpedaling and editing but the truth is you wouldn't have all these studies, theory's and such if all was normal because there would be nothing to prove, you honestly think your educating someone? On what? wheres your scientific proof? you have nothing except opinion, well we have an opinion too but it's based on common sense and logic, no man has a vagina and no woman has a penis making it common sense there is no reason they should be sexually attracted to each other and it serves no logical reason for two same sex couples to exist. That's as good as any BS study, theory or opinion that is out there.
The APA has no proof now that homosexuality is normal and sure didn't back in 74 when they removed it from the mental disorder list.
Gay sex is not normal as being in the norm. The male body is made to fit the female body to bring forth life and that is evolution. If someone can't be attracted to the opposite sex there is a problem. Some gays live with it and some gays would rather change it. Some go into therapy to change and I would not put them down for doing that. Now we are expected to celebrate the difference and see it as "normal."
This thread is about homosexual pedophilia and the premise it is more prevalent in the gay community. We all know there is heterosexual pedophilia as well but that is not the topic of this thread.
BUT no matter what we think, gay people like straight people need to be treated with kindness and dignity just because they are a child of God and deserve love. Pedophiles, both straight and gay, are sick people and need help so they won't harm children.
It is not "evolution" it is reproduction.
As for homosexual pedophilia being more prevalent, more female children are sexually abused than male children. MOST pedophiles are opportunistic. They molest children that they have access to. Males generally have more access to males. Are there truly homosexual pedophiles? Yes. There are far more heterosexual pedophiles if you go by the adult orientation.
Pay attention, these questions have been answered:
The sexual orientation of heterosexual means you are attracted to ADULT secondary sex characteristics of the opposite sex. Homosexual means you are attracted to ADULT secondary sex characteristics of the same sex.
Pedophila means you are attracted to children.
"Homosexual" and "Heterosexual" are DISTINCT from PEDOPHILIA.
Male pedophiles who have attraction to little boys tend to have ZERO interest in other grown, big, hairy, MEN... just as heterosexual pedophiles tend to have ZERO interest in WOMEN. It is probably possible that you will find someone who can have attraction to both adults AND children... but the reliable sources do not indicate a statistically greater incidence of gay men with attraction to adults AND children vs. straight men with attraction to adults AND children.
In context, a "homosexual pedophilic" act simply means the act is between an adult and a child of the same sex. A "heterosexual pedophilic" act is an act between an adult and a child of the opposite sex.
Sexual orientation is Homosexual or Heterosexual or Bisexual. *The paraphilia is PEDOPHILIA. *Therefore you can have same sex attraction toward children (homosexual pedophilia), or you can have opposite sex attraction toward children (heterosexual pedophilia), or you prefer both (bisexual pedophilia).
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Originally Posted by TriMT7
Jaymax said it perfectly: Heterosexual men: Do you refrain from sex with little boys because they are the same sex as you, and you are not gay, or because you are not attracted to children?
Understand that an adult heterosexual male who has a sexual affinity for children would not likely abuse boys, he would abuse girls. An adult homosexual male who has an affinity for children would not likely abuse girls. Don't try to distract from the fact that there are pedos who exclusively molest same sex and are homosexual. Which is what I have been posting for the past few days.
The pervert who was arrested was also posting on a yahoo message board, if you want to see the posts send me an IM and I'll forward you the link. The link cannot be posted here because it contains banned words and will not display correctly. He was posing as a dominant oversexed male who liked viewing race porn that involved black females. His posts were graphic in nature, and were not homosexually oriented (under that particular account), but were heterosexually oriented. Talk about choosing your sexual orientation, that's exactly what he did. He led a double life, only the double life made him a white aryan god who got his rocks off from fantasizing about degrading and humiliating sex acts with black women, and viewing toddler porn. He is a sexual opportunist who got his pleasure from men, women and children. What a sicko.
"Despite almost a century of psychoanalytic and psychological speculation, there is no substantive evidence to support the suggestion that the nature of parenting or early childhood experiences play any role in the formation of a person’s fundamental heterosexual or homosexual orientation. It would appear that sexual orientation is biological in nature, determined by a complex interplay of genetic factors and the early uterine environment."
The fetal brain develops during the intrauterine period in the male direction through a direct action of testosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hormone surge. In this way, our gender identity (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and sexual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb.
However, since sexual differentiation of the genitals takes place in the first two months of pregnancy and sexual differentiation of the brain starts in the second half of pregnancy, these two processes can be influenced independently, which may result in extreme cases in trans-sexuality. This also means that in the event of ambiguous sex at birth, the degree of masculinization of the genitals may not reflect the degree of masculinization of the brain.
There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender identity or sexual orientation.
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Originally Posted by MOKAN
About Jerry Sandusky. How do we know he's not gay? He was married, yes, but so are and were many gays. It's striking how many gays got married and lead normal lives, only to come out later in their lives. This is usually attributed to cultural factors that encouraged marriage and didn't recognize homosexuality. If it weren't for the pedophile association, I don't think anybody would have a problem suggesting he might be just like all of the other gays who were closeted for a very long time. That said, if he is gay, perhaps his confusion and 'struggle' is what lead him to use male children as a sexual outlet.
Why would he be gay? Do you know of any adult men he has been involved with? Has his wife said she thinks he is gay?
Fact is, that there are many studies showing that there are men who are attracted to adult women and not adult men (ie: straight), who sexually abuse young boys because they have easy access to them. This type of child molestation has nothing to do with sexual attraction to children. It's called 'regressed' or non-pedophilic child molestation. It's opportunistic.
I'm familiar with the fetal brain development theory. Thanks for posting actual, strong evidence. I find it to be the most convincing reason for homosexualty. That theory correlates well the difference in brain structure in gays and straights.
About Jerry Sandusky. "Regressed....", yeah, possible regressed homosexuality. We don't know if he's attracted to adult women and men. Maybe a struggle with his sexuality didn't allow for him to seek other adult men. Admit, what I said is at least possible.
If Sandusky, who you support as being straight, and other men of his ilk aren't attracted to the male children, why do they have sex with them? Opportunistic? I understand masturbation doesn't mean one is sexually attracted to their hand. So, are you basically saying somebody like Sandusky merely had sex with boys because he knew they have anatomy that can 'host' him? If that's the case, why not just use his hand? It seems like something about these boys was attractive to him. I don't know what exactly he did to those boys or if it's even described in any of the coverage, but if he went beyond penetrating them, I'd think he had more interest in them than to 'host' himself in something that was more like the real thing than his hand. If he was giving them oral sex or receiving them, I'd say he's gay. But then I don't know what all he did. Is there anyway to find out?
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