Official 10:00 healthcare ruling decision thread (interviews, Obama, school, elect)

[eRayP]

Originally Posted by Robeaux
Good point - so now the "lower" 50% will actually have to pay for the benefits they receive?

Originally Posted by pghquest

No, most of the lower 50% already have free government insurance, or get rebates, which will offset any tax they would have to pay.

What and take from their drug, cigarette and beer money (money they get for selling their foodstamps). No they don't pay anything as usual.

[d4g4m]

Being that the Supreme Court has authorized giving power to the congress to 'mandate' anything and impose a 'tax' if you refuse to comply, the President signed the following bills-
To save the world from CO2 emmisions, any new vehicle purchased must be a Chevy Volt.
All home owners must purchase a thermostat that is limited to a range of 66-69 degrees for heat and 77-80 degrees cool.
The government is concerned about your health, you will required to purchase brocoli once a week. All 52 receipts will be attached to your tax reports on April 15 as proof of purchase.
Failure to comply will result in a penalty, now known as a 'tax'.

[momof11]

This really should put to rest Obama's campaign to have the rich pay "just a little more" Eh?

[southbel]

I want the liberals to answer this one:

If Obama is saying this is not a tax, argued that quite a bit actually, why did he go to the Supreme Court and argue it was a tax?

[eRayP]

Originally Posted by Taratova

Truth bother you. They had bill boards up asking for nurses . Now it will be a fiasco for anyone to get an appointment.. good luck in 2014.

Agree, Nurses to patient ratios are already stretched beyond safe limits. (the number of patients one nurse has to take care of). It will get worse and there will be a sever doctor shortage.

This made billionaire for some industries and lawyers will get richer.

[bluesjuke]

Originally Posted by mohawkx

What part of the constitution did obama say was flawed and when did he say that. Link? or just histrionics?

Here you go,

You can search for the video now that you know where it is from.

From a 2001 interview on Chicago’s public radio station WBEZ FM;

Obama-

"If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court, I think where it succeeded was to invest formal rights in previously dispossessed people, so that now I would have the right to vote. I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order and as long as I could pay for it I’d be OK. But, the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society. To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical. It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution, at least as it’s been interpreted, and the Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states can’t do to you. Says what the federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf.
And that hasn’t shifted and one of the, I think, tragedies of the civil rights movement was because the civil rights movement became so court-focused I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change. In some ways we still suffer from that."






Apparently he holds no respect or understanding of why our Federal form of government had restrictions put on it.
Odd since he took an Oath to uphold and defend it.

[personwhoisaperson]

We are screwed. All this has done is make us realize that the only limit to the taxes that the government can impose on us is the 2nd Amendment. How far are we going to let this government take us before we take up arms? How far before you realize that what they are doing is not right?

[eRayP]

Originally Posted by TrapperJohn

If you make your appointment now you should be able to see the doc in 2014...

:grin:

LOL, I'm glad you wrote that. I don't know what I will need to see the doctor for but I don't want to take chances on dying before the doctor can see me. I'm calling the doctor to set my 2014 appointment tomorrow

[eRayP]

Originally Posted by Robeaux

Well said! [MOD CUT/off topic]

Robeaux, guess you got the gag order. I wonder what you said lol.

[Donna-501]

Originally Posted by jfkIII

Anybody got any good loopholes yet for avoiding the tax?

You could ask Romney.