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Old 06-29-2012, 09:53 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Yeah we like being denied healthcare for pre existing conditions, or caps on the amount of coverage your insurance will pay,or your insurance having the option to drop you or any family member from coverage, or huge deductibles, or losing your job means losing your healthcare.. etc.
I'm pretty sure that Obamacare has lifetime caps on coverage. If you have a catastrophic event and reach that lifetime cap (which is not hard to do), that's the end of your coverage.

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No, you will not be denied healthcare, you will get healthcare. Insurance for healthcare is a risk based product. I thought that Obamacare would reduce costs for all Americans? Well, it will not, it will simply force people who cannot afford to pay for healthcare to buy it or pay a tax.

Why didn't the President and his cronies listen to some of the reform ideas that the Republicans proposed? Why did the President and his cronies exempt themselves from this healthcare act?

And who knows everything that is in this bill? They certainly didn't and I can bet there will be provisions in there that give more control to the government.

How nice it must be to just live in ignorance thinking that this "tax" will help people when in fact it will kill jobs, raise taxes and place more control in the hands of government which seems to find a way to screw up everything it touches.
Yes, on all points. You will get healthcare coverage, and everyone will be paying for it. If you don't use your benefits, you will be paying for others who do use theirs. It's just a way of spreading the "wealth" folks.

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Sure, that's how Obama does it. Remember two weeks ago with the immigration Executive Order?
great reminder! The left is selectively forgetful.
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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More of that congressional farce.
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:58 AM
 
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Yeah we like being denied healthcare for pre existing conditions, or caps on the amount of coverage your insurance will pay,or your insurance having the option to drop you or any family member from coverage, or huge deductibles, or losing your job means losing your healthcare.. etc.

How are you going to keep your HI if you cant pay the premiums?
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Iowa
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The House Republicans are too obsessed with eliminating abortion to work anon anything like repealing a bill most of their voters favor.
Actually, they've passed more than one bill to repeal Obamacare...one right after they took over in '09, one in July of last year and this one on July 11. They all die in the Senate...imagine that.
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:59 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Would be a great question. Lord knows, the crooks who voted for this wont have to have any part of it.
I plan on asking it of my Congressman and both Senators, I'd encourage everyone to do the same. They all have E-mail and you can usually if not always note that a response is requested.


Maybe it's time for an 'American Spring'? Time we hold the buffoons on both sides of the aisle responsible?
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Old 06-29-2012, 10:00 AM
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Anything to get his mind off the economy, Nobody has forgotten that the TEA Party got elected by pledging to fix the economy.
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Old 06-29-2012, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I'm pretty sure that Obamacare has lifetime caps on coverage. If you have a catastrophic event and reach that lifetime cap (which is not hard to do), that's the end of your coverage.
It is unfortunate that people assume things, with the idea of opposition, and make points around it, instead of trying to learn first. Until now, many health plans had life time limits. Y'all support that and want to go back to it. ObamaCare prohibits plans that put lifetime limits on most benefits, that you hate.
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Old 06-29-2012, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Actually, they've passed more than one bill to repeal Obamacare...one right after they took over in '09...
To repeal a law that wasn't until March, 2010.
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Old 06-29-2012, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Upstate NY!
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BH9, what don't you understand about what happened yesterday that you live in a fantasy? The house of reps will most likely do a symbolic vote and repeal the AHCA, but its DOA in the Senate and DOA at the white house, you will have to in Nov, hold the HoR, win the senate by a 60 vote margin, and the white house.
While you are correct that the vote is a symbolic one and we will have to wait until The Republican Administration, Congress and Senate to repeal it, the 60 vote senate margin does not apply here...

Repealing the law won't happen before January 2013. It would be dependent on a triple Republican victory this November: Mitt Romney would need to defeat President Barack Obama, Republicans must hold their majority in the House, and they must also gain enough seats in the Senate so they have at least 50 of their own in the upper chamber.

What about the filibuster? Don't you need 60 votes to do anything in the Senate?

Not in this case. Because Chief Justice John Roberts' majority opinion ruled the individual mandate a "tax," a Republican-led Senate could repeal that provision--and others--using what is called "budget reconciliation," a procedural tactic that requires only a simple majority vote. The Republican vice president, in this hypothetical scenario, would break the tie. (Democrats used the same method in 2010 to pass the health care bill.)


Could the Republicans really repeal Obamacare? | The Ticket - Yahoo! News
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Old 06-29-2012, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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While you are correct that the vote is a symbolic one...
Right along the lines of lip service that is fiscal conservatism.
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